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Sepulchre said :
Solanumtinkr said :
I think a more successful method might be to try and get Gielinor to the point to it can turn the tables on the Elder Gods and drain them instead.

To have tried to reach perfection for so long. To have a long trail of destruction winding back into a countless past. To finally achieve that perfect creation through tremendous sacrifice. For the lifeforms of the time to struggle against "the inevitable" and fail. That creation then shows the Elders they achieved far more than they bargained for. An Awakening.

And then the Elders Perfect Creation to turns on them and eat them like popping candy. I recall it being revealed by Seren that Guthix was actually working on something in order to control the flow of the Anima Mundi so that the Elders never get enough Anima to reawaken. I believe that if this is true, Guthix most likely looked into more permanent solutions, such as this one.
This is relevant because well.. if Guthix couldn't do it, how the Infernus are we going to?? To manipulate Anima on such a grand scale to do the exact opposite of what it's meant to do, I doubt even Seren could do this herself without killing herself and/or damaging the Anima Mundi in some way.

She never said Guthix couldn't do it, she said it was his plan, a theory, that was later ruined by Zamorak after the destruction of the wilderness, which caused great damage towards the Anima as stated. Meaning, this method might still work, but in a different matter than what Guthix had planned. Hopefully we get to see invention work in that matter.

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31-Aug-2016 13:13:48

01-Sep-2016 05:21:05

Quael said :
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Lol

Let me say one thing, then (that kind of re-opens the gaping hole I poked in everything about the Godless):

It doesn't matter how much (or how little) power someone has over others, if comparatively there is nothing beyond them -- more powerful than them. They will be the most powerful being in the world, and the weaker beings will, therefore, fear and/or respect them for their power. Plus -- Gods ARE kill-able, they're still mortal. They're a hell of a lot harder to kill, but they can still be killed, as has been seen countless times throughout history. The only thing that really sets them apart is that threshold Jagex has imposed -- which, when passed, prevents someone from passing on into the afterlife. That is supposedly what makes someone a "God," when they've passed that threshold. But, honestly... I think that's poor storytelling on Jagex' part, because that threshold doesn't really do anything. It doesn't do a good job of setting Gods apart from other beings, aside from marking an "official point" -- a line -- which, when crossed, turns someone into a God. That's all it does.

But, with or without that, beings will still amass power and beings will still follow the powerful. Look at Hazeel -- He's no God, but he still amassed followers in the 5th age, a cult following. Kings and other sorts of Leaders also have a following, as you yourself mentioned -- And oftentimes, they don't participate in the battles and wars, either. They have their followers do the fighting. The entire purpose and idea behind The Godless is completely flawed, seriously.

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03-Sep-2016 21:56:45

The only difference between Gods and less-powerful leaders would be the level of destruction caused. That's a spectrum, and generally the more powerful the individual(s), the more destruction caused. Even that's flawed, though. For one, destruction is necessary for creation (see: Invention, or really any other skill/pair of skills), and destruction is a result of conflict. Conflict is also a necessary evil, and not something that you can just rid the world of. Any kind of disagreement breeds conflict, and conflict, in turn, breeds some kind of destruction.

The most the Godless would be doing would be drawing a line that says, "OK. Any amount of destruction before this level that this line represents, is acceptable. Any amount of destruction beyond the level that this line represents, is unacceptable."

And how are you going to quantify that? How in the world are you going to justifiably, acceptably quantify the acceptability and unacceptability of certain amounts of destruction?

Anyways, I'm going to go make a thread on this in a second, but yeah. Hope you understand.

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03-Sep-2016 21:56:56 - Last edited on 03-Sep-2016 22:00:29 by Fat N Wacky