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Sepulchre
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Raleirosen said :
Sepulchre said :
One key thing in the arguments against Zaros say that he's very manipulative and will say whatever he has to, to get what he wants. Even IF he is lying, saying this is FAR TOO DANGEROUS. We are now AWARE of his ability to make people loyal AND of our resistance, if he suddenly starts trying to control us we are now psychologically programmed to LOOK FOR IT immediately.
Funny, looks like you've had the exact opposite reaction, given your vehement defense of Zaros and your consistent denial that he's trying to manipulate us in any way.

You've fallen hook, line and sinker, my friend. Looking forward to FOTG2 so we can get some delicious new details on Zaros' machinations. You'd be very surprised what reactions I had. Just because I believe Zaros doesn't mean I trust him. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

17-Aug-2016 09:53:15

Raleirosen

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Sepulchre said :
You'd be very surprised what reactions I had. Just because I believe Zaros doesn't mean I trust him.
You'll have to clarify your position, then. I was under the impression that you thought Zaros is benevolent, with no dark ulterior motives or methods. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

17-Aug-2016 22:30:38 - Last edited on 17-Aug-2016 22:31:12 by Raleirosen

Mewzard
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You know, I helped Zaros get his body back in Fate of the Gods, but something bothered me towards the end. I trusted him because (besides usually being a nice, trusting guy with most people) he couldn't lie when I questioned him in my head, right?

Only, I later remembered I only had his word to take on it that he couldn't lie. Then, I thought about his various views on the gods, and it felt like, more than anything, he was trying to placate the World Guardian regardless of what they wanted or believed in to help him survive.

Add onto that his history of manipulating mortal beings (both consciously and otherwise), and that left me a little weary to take him at face value. I hope letting him in the ol' body during that quest doesn't negatively impact things in the future...

Well, we'll see if my feelings in that regard change for Fate of the Gods II. Zamorak and Zaros...should be interesting to say the least.

18-Aug-2016 00:24:15

Sepulchre
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Raleirosen said :
Sepulchre said :
You'd be very surprised what reactions I had. Just because I believe Zaros doesn't mean I trust him.
You'll have to clarify your position, then. I was under the impression that you thought Zaros is benevolent, with no dark ulterior motives or methods. I like to believe that he is, and I'm convinced as such.

That doesn't mean I don't expect to be wrong. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

18-Aug-2016 05:01:00

Sepulchre
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Sepulchre

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Raleirosen said :
Sepulchre said :
I like to believe that he is, and I'm convinced as such.

That doesn't mean I don't expect to be wrong.
So, you just expect that Jagex will upend your conviction? I expect to be wrong about something at some point. I believe that I'm right, but I don't necessarily believe that I'm right about being right. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

18-Aug-2016 06:08:36

Sepulchre
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Okay seriously, whoever is supposed to be fixing this double post thing needs to start doing their job. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

18-Aug-2016 06:08:36 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2016 06:09:01 by Sepulchre

Raleirosen

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Sepulchre said :
I expect to be wrong about something at some point. I believe that I'm right, but I don't necessarily believe that I'm right about being right.
Right... I'll leave ya to it, then. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

18-Aug-2016 06:26:04

Quael
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Raleirosen said :
Sepulchre said :
I expect to be wrong about something at some point. I believe that I'm right, but I don't necessarily believe that I'm right about being right.
Right... I'll leave ya to it, then.

I don't see how "I want to be elder god by damaging Gielinor more, waking them up which my plan could fail. It's my birth right." is not proving you wrong, But hey, hope soon you see.
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19-Aug-2016 15:29:16

Maiden China

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Quael said :
Raleirosen said :
Sepulchre said :
I expect to be wrong about something at some point. I believe that I'm right, but I don't necessarily believe that I'm right about being right.
Right... I'll leave ya to it, then.

I don't see how "I want to be elder god by damaging Gielinor more, waking them up which my plan could fail. It's my birth right." is not proving you wrong, But hey, hope soon you see. well, zaros does have far more plot armour than the elder gods do, so I really dont think they'll just laugh and then curbstomp him. This isnt game of thrones Carn

19-Aug-2016 19:51:22

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