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William Witt
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William Witt

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I've asked my clanmate Wahisietel about this stuff just now. Apparently, for Guthix balance usage, you use the potion on a vampyre at any point - Even if the vampyre is at full health and you have not yet attacked.

Apparently, juvinates in Darkmeyer can be killed without the Guthix balance potion, but apparently, you can no longer kill juvinates outside of Darkmeyer without the Guthix balance potion.
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10-Feb-2013 16:17:21

Ojacha

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Well, that's pretty stupid. Wasn't it said in one of the Paterdomus library books that Ivandis used the rod to freeze the vampires? If that's not the case anymore and the book has not been changed then the book became inaccurate. Simply having to use the potion makes it way too easy as well, and making the rod of ivandis during the quest also became useless.
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10-Feb-2013 17:58:21

Balustan

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I would like to see it change to a proc chance so it randomly freezes during he fight with the odds getting better at lower HP and then you can use the balance potion them to finish it off.
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10-Feb-2013 20:43:13

Goldmage162
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~The World Wakes~

Can't wait for this one, especially with the confirmation that Mod Ana was working on it! Really hope you get the next Meryque quest too!

And of course people are looking at it as the next WGS, from the way it was described, it will have almost the same purpose in the game-massive, lore filled quest to advance a story/plot line involving all of runescape and advancing the storyline of the game a big step to prepare for the next year of lore.

At the same time, it will also give access to a reward dungeon where you can get a new, higher tier of weapons/armor. Immediate rewards include a large amount of xp.


~Vampyre Slaying Weapons~

I like the idea of giving the flail/rod an operate option, that you use on half health. It's basically the same as a special. Or, it could go the way of so many other specials required for quests, and you would have to use a stunning ability with the rod/flail equipped when it's at ~ half health.

Speaking of Vampyre slaying weapons, would it be posssible to change all the vampyres to having a blisterwood requirement if you've completed BoD, and none if you haven't?

Basically, before the start of BoD (when your character shouldn't know about blisterwood) it has a weakness of "none," but only the rod/flail can hurt them at all anyway. After BoD, instead of "none" the weakness would be changed to "Blisterwood" and it would be equally weak to all blisterwood weapons, and the only other weapons that could hurt them (though why you would still use them I don't know) would be the rod/flail.

Mod Ana, would that even be possible? And what do all you's think of the idea?

11-Feb-2013 17:12:48 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2013 17:25:46 by Goldmage162

Goldmage162
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~Vampyre Hierarchy ~

(My view/understanding)

Drakan is at the top, ruling by both personal power, reputation and social contract. The Vampyres have a set power structure, and it lawfully puts Drakan at the top. Why, not exactly sure, but it would seem that nobody objects to his being ruler on a legal standpoint.

He is also meant to be extraordinarily powerful, which probably contributes o his hold on top post. however, his very reputation probably scares away any would-be challengers before they even try.

Unfortunately for him, there is only so far a reputation can be stretched. You need to supplement a reputation with facts in order for it to stand. And with Drakan being out of the public eye for so long, many have begun to question his reputation, and have begun thinking (though perhaps not openly yet) about replacing him.

Next in the line of Power are the rest of the Drakan family. They are the ones who carry out the day-to-day rulings of Vampyre society. There were three-Victor, Vanesculla, and Ranis.

However, I would say Victor was kickedout of the power structure. He was banished, for whatever reason, to live out his life where he would be weakened to the point of being a laughingstock. I don't see how he would still have held any power. Now of course, he is dead by our hands.

So is Ranis, or so the rest of Vampyre society thinks. Vanescula is now the sole second-in-command.

After the Drakan family, Vanstrom seemed to be next in line. To me, it would appear he was Drakan's favorite henchman, possibly very loyal to Drakan personally as well. Which would be why Vanescula wanted us to kill him as well, assuming she has plans to replace Drakan as top-dog.

Under them, Vampyre Society seems to have several castes, with the Lords and Ladies on top. I would assume while for some all they have is a title, higher ranked ones (possibly the ones that have individual names and aren't killed on slayer tasks) hold lands or positions of power that put them above

11-Feb-2013 17:13:18 - Last edited on 11-Feb-2013 17:24:38 by Goldmage162

Goldmage162
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the usual Vampyre.

Following down from there are Vyrewatch, Vyre grunt, and Vyreling, with the juvinates and juviniles (who I assume correspond to Vyreling and grunt) at the bottom. I would also expect that unless otherwise stated or indicated (keeping in mind that undercover missions are always a possibility) that any Vampyre stuck on the other side of the River Salve (Sinister Stranger, Rautin, etc.) are particularily low in rank.

Those Vampyres holding land but living outside of Darkmeyer itself could either be lower ranked, or simply choose to live outside Darkmeyer based on personal choice-not enough evidence to support one way or another.

Vanesula seeks to overthrow Drakan, but needs to do it lawfully. Supposedly, she wants to overthrow him because she feels he is no longer an effective leader for the Vampyres. Furthermore, she also, in order to get us to help her, says that if she is ruler, she will stop the tithing and cattle-farming of Morytania's human population.

Other Vampyres are also unsatisfied with Drakan, but don't want to challenge him because of both tradition and fear of his power (which, as noted above, is waning). Vanescula, at least openly, no longer fears him,but still needs to get around the lawful aspect.

So she feels that if we kill him (possibly with her help, as long as no one else knows and lives to tell the tale-which possibly might include us, so we'd best be wary-) she can take over as ruler due to her being next in line.

That's about all I have, hierarchy wise-what do you guys think?

On a side note, with how structured their society is,it surprises me almost that they would be Zamorakians, as I would think using a pure Zamorakian doctrine, the strong rule, and that's the only law. Of course, there are different Zamorakian sects...

Wonder if they would return to Zaros' worship should he return (and give them the chance).

11-Feb-2013 17:41:55

Goldmage162
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Also, though I don't remember if any concrete reason was given, why Draynor had to leave. I wonder if he and his siblings had a religious argument a some point. Perhaps Draynor wished to continue with Zaros rather then switch alleigence to Zamorak?

Mere speculation however, with no real fact basis.

11-Feb-2013 17:46:26

Ojacha

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All we know of Draynor was him being left behind the salve after the Misthalin-Morytania war 'for his cowardice'. Why he was such a coward remains to be discovered, but a Zaros allignment seems possible to me.

From what we've seen in BoD, vampyres do not loyally follow anyone and are only interested in their own. If turning back to Zaros meant an increase in their own power, they would gladly do so. But if this would no longer be the case, they would stop their alliance with the same speed. Drakan would never have gained rule of Morytania if he stayed at Zaros' side.
'If there is no one left to stand behind, then I will have to stand alone.'

11-Feb-2013 18:19:35

Balustan

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@X Pur3 04 I think so indirectly.

About Draynor I always thought it would make most sense if it happened just before the river was blessed. He and his forces retreated or something before the battle actually ended. When they got defeated Drakan did not mind so much as it was his brother but the other high ranking lords objected to his cowardice and as such he and his forces were sent over the salve.

The moment they began to cross however was when the blessing begun. While some made it across and were weakened, such as all the vampyres we see west of the salve in game, most were turned into Feral Vampyres having lost their mind due to the holy energy or w/e it is.

That's how I see it going down.

On the Zaros/Zamorak issue.

I do not think they are very Zamorakian tbh. Draynor to me thinks himself equal to Zamorak and I would not hesitate to say Zamorak once thought that too. They were both guards of Zaros no easy feat. Interestingly Vampyres do have the sort of gargoyle altar thing and I always wondered what they actually were?

I do love the new gargoyle designs we've seen though. I also recently learned there is gargoyle lore...

On the Drakan ruling issue well we do have to bring into play that regardless of everything the true vampyres do hold all the power. I wonder if it is based on how vampyric you actually are...

I don't know if those west of the salve have no rank or if it's just they are no longer part of society due to not being able to cross. For all we know they could be in non-permanent exile. Draynor still considered himself a count so who knows.

I still think Draynor being inredibly loyal to Drakan would be awesome. Just because Ranis seems kind of pathetic. Vanescula wants to betray Drakan it seems and I feel Draynor should be the loyal one that if he had not been in exile he would be the 2nd most powerful and would not betray him.
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12-Feb-2013 11:00:38

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