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I agree. It would be interesting to find out that Ranis and/or Vanescula plotted Draynor's downfall for that reason. It would mean that Drakan could turn on his sister to avenge Draynor and then turn on us for killing him!

The new diaries are on a bookshelf near the infernal mages in the Slayer Tower. Here are the facts I've gathered.

1. Viggora - The tower looked over the 'green lands' (naturally the old Morytania). When he mentions the other races, he only speaks about the Mahjarrat and Demons in Zaros' army, not the Vampyres or anyone else.

2. Mages' Diary, 3rd Age - The tower was to become a 'factory' of reinforcements for Zamorak's armies. The Saradominists are the only enemies mentioned. A powerful female mage offered to help them open up a portal to the abyss. Again, no mention of any Vampyres.

Sigh.

12-Feb-2013 15:46:02 - Last edited on 12-Feb-2013 23:18:10 by [#TWA99I4ZX]

DoogleHallow

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What? Dear god no Jagex...the spam! Mod Ana, please pass on word to the forum team that the poll threads must be confined to a seperate forum!

The diaries are still interesting. I was thinking that Saradomnist prescence did not arrive till the fourth age, however now we have confirmation that they were there in the second age and the early third age.

Theory time! Up until now, we've assumed that Drakan and Zamorak were allied, since Drakan had demons under his command during the Barrows campaign. What if Drakan left Zamoraks side after taking over Morytania?
Heres what must logically happen:
1 - God wars breaks out, Sara takes over the desert, Zammy takes over Forinthry. Between is battleground.
2 - Drakan attacks Morytania, takes over in Zamoraks name. The Abyssal experiment in Vigorras Folly take place to summon more demons for Zammy.
3 - Sara takes possession of the Stone of Jas, Zammy is pushed upwards towards the northwest corner of forinthry, so as to keep the ritual stone close. Sara takes Annakarl. Drakan and the vyres are now cut off, and fend for themselves with Morytania under their control. Drakan uses the abyssal portal to summon the demons in his army (We could assume that the bloodvelds are also summoned from here, and later mutated in the blood labs).

Heres where the conjecture comes in:
4 - Drakan steals the stone of jas towards the end of the third age, possibly with Sliskes help. It is stored in the Daeylt Mines.
5- Sara is no longer as powerful, Zam pushes back, taking over Annakarl in 3100, and then progresses south.
6 - Saradomin sends the Barrows Brothers to recover the Stone. Sliske intervenes, causing the campaign to fail.
7 - Zamorak pushes all the way down to Uzer. Guthix is awoken, moves the Stone to the Lunar mines, Drakan finds himself too weak to defend himself from the Saradomnists, who invade and establish Hallowvale. 4th ages commences.

I have evidence to back much of this up, but I'm running out of characters :)

oh, *bump*

13-Feb-2013 19:47:01

Ojacha

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Very nice and believable sum up. I like the idea of Sara sending the Barrows Bros to Morytania to reclaim the stone. However, the stone was still in Sara's possesion when Annakarl was presumably taken over in 3100, when he healed Zilyana. So Drakan couldn't have stolen it before that time.

I also believe the desert areas were not entirely taken over by Saradomin. Sure some settlements fell in his hands throughout the wars, but I believe the menaphites and remaining Zarosian fleeing to the south have always been the most dominant in that region. I think Sara mostly took over modern-day Asgarnia and Misthalin. This also matches the campaign from Armies of Gielinor*

** 2007 (hopefully) coming back! Looking forward to seeing the classic morytania again.
'If there is no one left to stand behind, then I will have to stand alone.'

13-Feb-2013 22:42:35 - Last edited on 13-Feb-2013 22:47:20 by Ojacha

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I wouldn't put much faith in RS 2007 coming back. The truth is that the old cohort of players like us have largely moved on in life and don't have the means or inclination to start afresh and pay for the privilege. Really, we're just upset that our memories of the past have been defiled and many of us have grown bitter over past experiences of the old game being defaced. Nostalgia is a strange beast, is it not?

Doogle, I love your narrative. Some of us have already decided that Drakan effectively went his own way once he conquered Morytania/Hallowvale, but there are possible, though not definite, problems with your theory. There is evidence to suggest that Drakan lost Hallowvale after his first conquest and was forced into hiding before making a comeback, and this could interfere with your timeline. Also, if Drakan had the stone, he would have become a very serious threat to everyone, so much so that we would have heard about the incident by now, right?

Then again, so much of Morytania's past is shrowded in mystery (conveniently for Mod Ana!) that anything could have happened!

13-Feb-2013 23:11:11

DoogleHallow

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Ah, i forgot about that bit about Annakarl *goes off to refine theory*

This would be Drakans first conquest, then he loses Morytania to Queen E at the dawn of the fourth age. This would be when the Tome would have been written, it also gives time for the crypt in Burgh de Rott to be built during the third age for Drakan to retreat to.

Information surrounding Drakan at the time is scarce, its plausible that no one knew that he had the stone, although that could be a bit too much of a stretch

Theory refinement: I watched the Annakarl cutscene again. It appears that Annakarl was either ransacked or remained Saradomnist after the battle, though the fact that there were no others around and that saradomin just walked in leads me more towards ransacked. Which would be typical of highly contested territory, destroying settlements so that they cannot be used if they are won back.

14-Feb-2013 00:22:14 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2013 01:09:25 by DoogleHallow

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A new monster of some sort is a strong possibility, but the rank of Vampyres above the lords and ladies can only be the Drakans and their ministers themselves. However, we have discussed the possibility that Drakan is able to enhance the powers of Vampyres such as Vanstrom for special purposes. Maybe an elite core of enhanced Vampyres will be game in the future?

14-Feb-2013 22:40:32

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