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Eridyn
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They change size to fit the user they do not change shape to our knowledge. If the Elder Gods created it to be that shape, it should remain that shape. God Sword is a bit different in that the 4 gods have some form of input in the sword. Specifically the hilt but also other stuff too. It shouldn't change to suit the gods as Saradomin took the Elder Gods symbol and Armadyl made an addition to make it look different.

Also it may be that shape for a reason. Just as I'm sure the blade is that shape for a reason.


Granted. But until that reason is brought to light, if one should exist, it's likely obsolete by now since the Staff isn't being used for its original purpose. So a change in appearance wouldn't harm anyone.
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23-Apr-2014 17:19:20 - Last edited on 23-Apr-2014 17:20:45 by Eridyn

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They change size to fit the user they do not change shape to our knowledge. If the Elder Gods created it to be that shape, it should remain that shape. God Sword is a bit different in that the 4 gods have some form of input in the sword. Specifically the hilt but also other stuff too. It shouldn't change to suit the gods as Saradomin took the Elder Gods symbol and Armadyl made an addition to make it look different.

Also it may be that shape for a reason. Just as I'm sure the blade is that shape for a reason.


Granted. But until that reason is brought to light, if one should exist, it's likely obsolete by now since the Staff isn't being used to it's original purpose. So a change in appearance wouldn't harm anyone.


Why would the appearance change though? If you change it you replace the shaft and break it which is besides the point. Also Sliske has been using it and Zamorak used it as a siphon so idk I feel like it is being used for it's purpose.
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23-Apr-2014 17:21:39

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Just been discussing with Mod Osborne that based on the way Sliske used it in TWW, it appears as though Armadyl didn't know which way up it went, and stuck the ends on the wrong way around. No wonder Zamorak couldn't get it to work.

23-Apr-2014 17:23:13

Eridyn
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Just been discussing with Mod Osborne that based on the way Sliske used it in TWW, it appears as though Armadyl didn't know which way up it went, and stuck the ends on the wrong way around. No wonder Zamorak couldn't get it to work.


Big High Chicken god done goofed. I can picture Zamorak now mid fight with Zaros:

Zaros:
*Angry and ready to attack.*
Zamorak:
"Wait! Wait! Wait!"
*Zamorak pulls staff out of Zaros, then switches ends, then stabs it back into him.*
Zamorak:
"Okay, I'm ready!"
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23-Apr-2014 17:25:50

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Just been discussing with Mod Osborne that based on the way Sliske used it in TWW, it appears as though Armadyl didn't know which way up it went, and stuck the ends on the wrong way around. No wonder Zamorak couldn't get it to work.


Are you telling me Zamorak stabbed Zaros with the non-pointy end? Pretty sure his using it as a spear is kind of the right way.
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23-Apr-2014 17:26:26

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Just been discussing with Mod Osborne that based on the way Sliske used it in TWW, it appears as though Armadyl didn't know which way up it went, and stuck the ends on the wrong way around. No wonder Zamorak couldn't get it to work.


Are you telling me Zamorak stabbed Zaros with the non-pointy end? Pretty sure his using it as a spear is kind of the right way.


You'd expect the magic to come out of the fancy end though. Maybe Zamorak tried shooting lightning with it, but it didn't work, so he tried stabbing instead and that worked.

23-Apr-2014 17:29:33

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I find it curious he wouldn't've tested the staff before altering it, same for Zamorak, Sliske knew exactly how it worked and he hadn't had it for that long.

The fancy end orb does in fact contain energy that charges the air element (to so called Armadyl Runes for example) as evident with the shards we can get post-ROTM. So it must be usable, given Armadyl adopted the staff I imagine he added his touch where he could (the current dead-end side of the staff) to keep the power of the staff and still use powered air magic.

I dunno of course, someting like that just seems more believable given he's part of a race of master craftsmen, just blindly adding stuff before even knowing what it does would be as silly as Zaros tripping.
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23-Apr-2014 17:33:44 - Last edited on 23-Apr-2014 17:50:29 by Fiksii

Eridyn
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You'd expect the magic to come out of the fancy end though. Maybe Zamorak tried shooting lightning with it, but it didn't work, so he tried stabbing instead and that worked.


Perhaps Zamorak forgot to power up the staff before the battle. I imagine the fancy end works as the absorber of the energy, and the star works as the release. Had he done that in conjunction with the Stone, (Instead of just powering himself up) he probably could have instantly destroyed Zaros.

If that is indeed how the staff works, we know in greater detail of the transfer of power occurred. ;)
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23-Apr-2014 17:34:49 - Last edited on 23-Apr-2014 17:53:35 by Eridyn

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So if Armadyl was using the wrong end, maybe most people did. Then maybe most people all thought it was weak?

If that is the case and Zamorak used the right end, whether through accident or desperation, then the true power of the staff may have come as a complete surprise to Zaros and others.


Well one end drains, the other end transmits. If they were trying to use it backwards, then of course the results would be far below par :P It would have been an uphill battle to force it to work at all.
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23-Apr-2014 17:59:55 - Last edited on 23-Apr-2014 18:12:17 by Solanumtinkr

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