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Why is Zaros letting his followers die...?
They're tools. They fight so he doesn't have to.

That's a waste of power... and lives. He could just zamo-zap Zamorak back, but he decides to send his followers to die?

In a very meaningful way they are his power.

06-Jun-2014 09:59:22

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Why is Zaros letting his followers die...?
They're tools. They fight so he doesn't have to.

That's a waste of power... and lives. He could just zamo-zap Zamorak back, but he decides to send his followers to die?

In a very meaningful way they are his power.

*gives cookie*

Please elaborate? :D

06-Jun-2014 11:15:49

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In a very meaningful way they are his power.

Does that give theological credence to a certain title? I've always been a bit curious about Azzanadra being called something similar to "the power" (possibly with an added connotation of riches) within the Translation book from DT. At first, I thought it was dehumanization (depersonizationation? He's not human), but at a second glance the tablet probably wouldn't have been written by Saradominists (they wanted to erase the whole thing), and it seems a bit too sympathetic otherwise to have been written by Zamorakians. I think it was written by Zarosians, or a neutral party. Geographically, the former is more likely. I could be wrong.

He also later refers either to himself, the Zarosians or Zaros as "the power". People seem to think he's referring to the stone, but Lucien was doing anything but snubbing the stone. Given his propensities, calling Zaros himself that seems likely. But Zemouregal specifically mentioned "a Zarosian", which suggests that the comment in question referred to Azzanadra, or himself as well as the rest of the Zarosians as a collective. The latter is also more likely if there's a theological backing.

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06-Jun-2014 14:02:18

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Historically, 1's military/army was a more visible function of power or might.
The US, China, and Russia have had the largest militaries in the modern world for much of the last 70 years.

England had the most powerful navy from the late 1500s to WW1 (approx)

Rome had the most powerful army in Europe and North Africa from the Punic Wars up until Rome's fall.


For many former or would be empires, military strength is 1 aspect of it.
Good, effective tactics and leadership is another.

The might of the US military (and NATO) has been undone not by traditional massive armies duking it out, or technology, but by smaller more determined forces who fight seasonal wars.
Rome was undone more by internal corruption and infighting before being overwhelmed.
Alexander the Great conquered a massive swath of territory before dying, and immediately his generals fought breaking up his 'empire'.


Zaros for a long time had the duality of a very very powerful army, followed by the best commanders he could find.
This allowed his empire to grow to an impressive size.
But, much like Rome, corruption took its toll. Then infighting.
Without Zaros, without unity (assuming Zamorak's little insurrection went faster or more smoothly and his demonic allies didn't just take him away that quickly, he might have been able to retain a better remnant of the empire) Zaros' kingdom fell apart, and everyone else sensed it and attacked.

06-Jun-2014 14:40:54

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Why is Zaros letting his followers die...?
They're tools. They fight so he doesn't have to.

That's a waste of power... and lives. He could just zamo-zap Zamorak back, but he decides to send his followers to die?

In a very meaningful way they are his power.

*gives cookie*

Please elaborate? :D

Now I can't speak for Mod Jack but I think its like this...


He feels like he owns them the same way you feel about armor, you feel as if its job is to protect you, you don't sacrifice yourself to keep your armor from being scratched, similarly Zaros doesn't put himself in harms way to keep his mortals alive. So in the same way your armor is an extent of your power to protect yourself, Zaros feels mortals are an extent of his power to protect himself

06-Jun-2014 20:52:01

Adam Teal

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Why is Zaros letting his followers die...?
They're tools. They fight so he doesn't have to.

That's a waste of power... and lives. He could just zamo-zap Zamorak back, but he decides to send his followers to die?

In a very meaningful way they are his power.

*gives cookie*

Please elaborate? :D

Now I can't speak for Mod Jack but I think its like this...


He feels like he owns them the same way you feel about armor, you feel as if its job is to protect you, you don't sacrifice yourself to keep your armor from being scratched, similarly Zaros doesn't put himself in harms way to keep his mortals alive. So in the same way your armor is an extent of your power to protect yourself, Zaros feels mortals are an extent of his power to protect himself

Makes sense now. Thanks!

07-Jun-2014 00:37:24

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Why is Zaros letting his followers die...?
They're tools. They fight so he doesn't have to.

That's a waste of power... and lives. He could just zamo-zap Zamorak back, but he decides to send his followers to die?

In a very meaningful way they are his power.

*gives cookie*

Please elaborate? :D

Now I can't speak for Mod Jack but I think its like this...


He feels like he owns them the same way you feel about armor, you feel as if its job is to protect you, you don't sacrifice yourself to keep your armor from being scratched, similarly Zaros doesn't put himself in harms way to keep his mortals alive. So in the same way your armor is an extent of your power to protect yourself, Zaros feels mortals are an extent of his power to protect himself

Yes, exactly. Well put.

10-Jun-2014 10:38:36

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Mod Jack, is Zaros changed in that aspect? Does he quit using Azzanadra as a disposable tool but... Well how we, emotional beings, usually reward loyalty with appreciation and protection.



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