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Pontifex Rex
Sep Member 2021

Pontifex Rex

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I am hopeful that Mod Ayiza and others will see the light so to speak. Implementing a new skill has failed in the past; not because the suggested idea was bad or low quality.

It is a matter of:
1. Further refining integration of the preexisting skills (warding).
2. Ensuring proper entanglement of the new skill into existing mechanics.
3. Recognizing that the new skill may collide with problems a preexisting skill may have (smithing).
4. Rigidly differentiating between skill expansion and refinement (forestry).

TBH the TLDR of 2007scape; the refinement of skills we already have could easily be disguised as a new skill to begin with. Warding is a great example of this. Is more integration between magic and crafting such a bad thing? That is the true 'sauce' of a new skill. lol

A new skill is a lot more like asking the community if they want a new dish, side, or condiment. A properly represented triangle more than a flat and one-dimensional proposition. TBH the mods could disguise a crafting expansion as a new skill and may would be very satisfied. It is truly a matter of which of the three dimensions are tweaked.

Expansion, Integration, Modification
A valid concept would have to be all three... See for yourselves... Commit such ideas to vote and see which one is voted best. Very likely the one most evenly matched, balanced, and valued between all three.
OSRS forever!!!

16-Dec-2022 08:05:45

Bruce Waayne
Oct Member 2023

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No way this passed with 80% i dont care what the fanboys say. EVERYONE ive ever talked to in OSRS has been against new skill since the beginning of OSRS until now included. Everyone thinks its a bad idea. Sad this stuff is being forced on us.
OSRS - Filled with harassers sad...~
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17-Dec-2022 03:13:55 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2022 03:14:20 by Bruce Waayne

ANGEL0FD30TH

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@JorgiePorgie

EOC came out Nov 20th 2012.
Dungeon came out April 12 2010.
Summoning came out Jan 15th 2008.

So logically speaking on what is consider OSRS and what is not, you are correct - Summoning and Dungeon IS OSRS. To why it didn't make it in is beyond me - it's possible due to the evolution of RS3, it requires alot of recoding the syntax and putting it under a different file and bring it back as close to OSRS as possible. Which requires time, debugging, and testing. Seeing Jagex is a small community of 32 devs last I checked, this will not only be taxing, but strain the community on newly developed content. Leaving us with no QOL, and potentially shutting down OSRS due to lack of playerbase support.

The fact players refuse to accept this truth tells me they're not true fans of Runescape, and lack the knowledge of its history.

18-Dec-2022 05:28:24

ANGEL0FD30TH

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Bruce Waayne said :
No way this passed with 80% i dont care what the fanboys say. EVERYONE ive ever talked to in OSRS has been against new skill since the beginning of OSRS until now included. Everyone thinks its a bad idea. Sad this stuff is being forced on us.


You and your friends should make a petition on ridding the voting system seeing you disagree with 80% of us. Welcome to democracy.

18-Dec-2022 05:29:55

Marcia Ress

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ANGEL0FD30TH said :
Bruce Waayne said :
No way this passed with 80% i dont care what the fanboys say. EVERYONE ive ever talked to in OSRS has been against new skill since the beginning of OSRS until now included. Everyone thinks its a bad idea. Sad this stuff is being forced on us.


You and your friends should make a petition on ridding the voting system seeing you disagree with 80% of us. Welcome to democracy.


This was never a real democracy tho . Not when people have the right to vote more than once with their alt armies . And most certainly not when (almost) everyone has the right to vote . Where i come from people under 18years old don't have voting right , the same way accounts created before 1/1/2019 (and that's me being reasonable) should not have the right to vote in polls . There's only one demographic that matters , the old players , those who have been here before , those who never quit but just take breaks . I am done with new players , other mmo refugees or players who started during the pandemic , they haven't been here before , they lack the wisdom of what a healthy addition/update to the game is .Make these restrictions happen (1 vote per IP,no voting rights accounts that are not 2-3 years old) and then we can talk about democracy , opinions that should be respected and other cute stuff . Till then , the damage is done , the poll passed , so we have another fight ahead of us. There's no way any skill can be a healthy addition to the game , we have to work in future polls and feedback so at least the new skill won't be an unhealthy addition but an indifferent 300-500 hour break from our regular scaping . And of course to fight for assurances that it will be the last ever skill that will come into the game , we can't open this conversation every 3 years like it's a medical prescription .

18-Dec-2022 14:11:31

Teridax
Aug Member 2023

Teridax

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ANGEL0FD30TH said :
@JorgiePorgie

EOC came out Nov 20th 2012.
Dungeon came out April 12 2010.
Summoning came out Jan 15th 2008.

So logically speaking on what is consider OSRS and what is not, you are correct - Summoning and Dungeon IS OSRS. To why it didn't make it in is beyond me - it's possible due to the evolution of RS3, it requires alot of recoding the syntax and putting it under a different file and bring it back as close to OSRS as possible. Which requires time, debugging, and testing. Seeing Jagex is a small community of 32 devs last I checked, this will not only be taxing, but strain the community on newly developed content. Leaving us with no QOL, and potentially shutting down OSRS due to lack of playerbase support.

The fact players refuse to accept this truth tells me they're not true fans of Runescape, and lack the knowledge of its history.


You’re not a fan of OLD RuneScape and if you were you would disparage those crappy skills. This is NOT a democracy and you sound stupid trying to claim it. It’s a video game and the developers will fudge polls to suit their interests. They like it when poor saps fall for their schemes and waste their time on yet another useless skill. So you keep smirking like an imp.

18-Dec-2022 15:22:10

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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State of Emergency trumps Democracy, and even Utopia.

If OSRS is one foot in the grave, they will have to try something different to have a chance to survive anyway, as status quo means extinction in the not so distant future.

Four legs good? Maybe, but two legs better. For pigs like Napolean to have a chance to survive, they have to feed the likes of Snowball to the dogs. :)

23-Dec-2022 17:55:07 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2022 18:39:03 by Dilbert2001

bookofspells
Dec Member 2023

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Jeremy Cheng said :
I voted no. Don't care how good the new skill's rewards are, don't care if it's been 9 years and no skill. The game is going to be osrs in name only if a new skill gets added. Especially if dungeoneering or summoning are considered. Why is the poll for the new skill not 75% threshold? This is a massive content suggestion that needs a higher yes threshold since it's so divisive. All other polls can be 70% idc, but raise up the poll for new skill back to 75%. I hope there are more ppl out there who feel the same way and will vote no. I'm going to say the cliche phrase: "Who asked?" Who exactly asked for a new skill in osrs and not in rs3? This is why we need no update osrs servers. With that nowhere on the horizon, I will always vote no to new skills so max cape doesn't take longer and so I'm not forced to spend 200m just to get it to 99.


You see, this is kinda why I voted no on A LOT of content besides a few case items/quests and bank space. As for the new skill, if it's anything like dungeoneering I'm out. If a reworked summoning comes in with no bs charm collecting, then I will be open to it.

Anyways I wouldn't be surprised if a Vanilla Oldschool Runescape were to release. I'd play it and see how far I get.

24-Dec-2022 02:52:24

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