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Sharp-shin

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Pikachu78 said :
um there are no consquencces for rerealsing these items, in fact theres a lot more benfits

Just because you aren't able to understand the consequences, doesn't mean there aren't any.

Personally, from "our side", I can see that keeping certain items discontinued brings about the unfortunate consequence that some players aren't able to get them. But because life is harsh and you sometimes can't get what you want, so, too, you cannot always get everything you want in Runescape. But as some players would only be missing out on a few optional cosmetics, in a game that already has cosmetics aplenty, the game's integrity matters more in this case than a temporary short term satisfaction (saying this as someone who also belongs to that player category).

Pikachu78 said :
they are supposed to be fun little cosmetics to wear during the holidays . you folks dont want any players to have fun with the items as they were inteed .

Who has ever denied the current owners of the said cosmetics from being able to use them whenever they want?

For newer players, it would be better to make something new, at the very least an improved version of the old cosmetics, instead of the outdated original version. Old players would get something with that, too.

Pikachu78 said :
i mean lets look at the xmas 2016 event when they re-relaesed the events as mini quests for the main event a lot of players defintly over 75% of the players were upset that they didnt get the proper item for playing that old event

Alright Pikachu, let's look at the source of this number of yours then; where is it?

Pikachu78 said :
jagex learned the mistake of makeing items disconuited and corrected it in osrs

It was a design decision, not a "correction".

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25-Oct-2018 07:39:35

Turksta

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At the end of the day it all comes down to this:

"they were never meant to be this way, it's you greedy selfish people that made it this way. They are supposed to be fun little cosmetics to wear during the holidays. You folks don't want any players to have fun with the items as they were intended."

So really you can only blame yourselves for feeling this way. If you want to show off your rare items go buy an actual rare. Literally.

25-Oct-2018 07:42:13

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2020

Whatusaytome

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@Ladyolake.

Once again, you are unwilling to change the simple unimportant term you want. Showing you are unwilling to change.

Let me explain this about why I want to reword it. I would rather not put a term that lessers one items status, when I could put a term on the Other version of the exact same thing and add a little status, being the Original Version, being the term "Original" to show that fact without lessening anything. They are the same things, just on display differently. If you want your originals on display, I've offered the solution.

You can say they should have to do the events. And I have supported Shifu's thread and wholeheartedly agree with his views in his most recent posts in that thread. The Past Holiday Portal. Which allows people to replay the events, which I've also compromised to link this to Solomon's to extremely limit the items people can get in any timeframe. Go read into it

I do however believe it would please more and displease less to make it simpler and less limiting. But to each their own I guess.

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25-Oct-2018 13:51:23

Turksta

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"Just because you aren't able to understand the consequences, doesn't mean there aren't any."

Blackwing, The only consequence of releasing these items would be they are no longer as rare as they currently are. So it shouldn't be a problem if these items are no longer rare. The logic/reasoning behind the release of holiday items are: they are fun silly items made for fun, NOTHING more. They weren't made to be rare otherwise they wouldn't have handed it out like candy back then. Furthermore, if anything this is more evident when we look at the decisions of Jagex back then - they made these items untradeable so players stop cherishing these items as valuables and just enjoy them for what they are, rather than turning friends into foes over pixels

"Personally, from "our side", I can see that keeping certain items discontinued brings about the unfortunate consequence that ~~some~~ MOST players aren't able to get them. But because life is harsh and you sometimes can't get what you want, so, too, you cannot always get everything you want in Runescape."

You seem to miss the point that Runescape isn't life.

"But as some players would only be missing out on a few optional cosmetics,"

The many cosmetics aren't a substitute for the holiday items themselves clearly. Otherwise this topic wouldn't be of discussion today as there wouldn't be any interests in desiring said items. Many new players want old holiday rewards as nothing ingame comes close to these items in terms of similarity. E.g many players want Eek the spider as it's one of the few pets you can actually hold and have a unique animation with.

"In a game that already has cosmetics aplenty, the game's integrity matters more in this case than a temporary short term satisfaction

I'd say in a game where the population is slowly decreasing, player satisfaction matters more in this case than catering to a very niche group of players

25-Oct-2018 14:59:07

Turksta

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"Who has ever denied the current owners of the said cosmetics from being able to use them whenever they want?"

That isn't the problem. The problem is newer players being denied of using them whenever they want

"For newer players, it would be better to make something new, at the very least an improved version of the old cosmetics, instead of the outdated original version. Old players would get something with that, too."

This is the only thing i can agree with. If Jagex weren't so lazy in making great holiday rewards again, then maybe there would be less players wanting the older cosmetics/holiday items.

"It was a design decision, not a "correction"."

It was a design decision, and also a "correction".

"Alright Pikachu, let's look at the source of this number of yours then; where is it?"

I'm not so sure about the source of Pikachu78. However, i do recall many players happy with the rerelease of the snow globe.

25-Oct-2018 15:08:16

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2008

Ladyolake

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@whatyousaytome

You too are unwilling to compromise with such a little word as "copy" or the year it was
obtained.

I really am not even gonna look here again.

I DONT CARE

I find happiness in game regardless of what I have or what you have.

Have a good one. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

29-Oct-2018 11:08:52

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2020

Whatusaytome

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Ladyolake said :
@whatyousaytome

You too are unwilling to compromise with such a little word as "copy" or the year it was
obtained.

I really am not even gonna look here again.

I DONT CARE

I find happiness in game regardless of what I have or what you have.

Have a good one. because I want an endearing word showing the original is the original, rather than a demeaning word saying the copy is just a copy. Get it?

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29-Oct-2018 19:00:21

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2008

Ladyolake

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No i was trying hard to find a compromise both sides of the fense would
feel was appropriate.

so since you cant even think like an adult and say oh compromise where both
sides give a little.

Makes no difference to me.

It just makes me want to say no support at all and if not for me wanting my
son to have same things I do, i would say it. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

30-Oct-2018 01:45:36

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2020

Whatusaytome

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Let's make one thing clear. You made a compromise. And I suggested an edit.

My compromise does not change what yours is trying to accomplish at all. But you aren't getting that.

I already accepted the suggestion you made, but you aren't getting that.

You can't allow the word " Original" being put on originals, but you are only going to accept a term that I don't think is appropriate. You are trying to force me to accept terminology that I think is more offensive just because you can't accept a word that doesn't offend anybody, even though it puts (Original) on the originals to make them stand out.

You are disagreeing only because it's me, just like Draco, Just like Blackwing. Quit being petty and accept the small change to your suggestion so I can support you. Even though I don't want it separating people at all, it's better for everybody if it gets done regardless if any word is added.

But I'm not accepting any demeaning terms like Copy.

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30-Oct-2018 02:11:18

Sharp-shin

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Turksta said :
Blackwing, The only consequence of releasing these items would be they are no longer as rare as they currently are. So it shouldn't be a problem if these items are no longer rare. The logic/reasoning behind the release of holiday items are: they are fun silly items made for fun, NOTHING more. They weren't made to be rare otherwise they wouldn't have handed it out like candy back then. Furthermore, if anything this is more evident when we look at the decisions of Jagex back then - they made these items untradeable so players stop cherishing these items as valuables and just enjoy them for what they are, rather than turning friends into foes over pixels

They weren't made rare in quantity, they were made rare by being discontinued. "Rare" in certain contexts like this means a discontinued item, not an item that is hard to get (like a very rare monster drop) or small in quantity. If Jagex didn't intend this, they would've changed it over a decade ago already, but they didn't, because it was a design decision.

Turksta said :
You seem to miss the point that Runescape isn't life.

When it comes to game integrity, one has to be harsh like life sometimes, in order to preserve it. If an item was made available for everyone easily, it'd become worthless quickly.

Turksta said :
The many cosmetics aren't a substitute for the holiday items themselves clearly. Otherwise this topic wouldn't be of discussion today as there wouldn't be any interests in desiring said items. Many new players want old holiday rewards as nothing ingame comes close to these items in terms of similarity. E.g many players want Eek the spider as it's one of the few pets you can actually hold and have a unique animation with.

Some players don't realize that new cosmetics can be made that they'll like even more.

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30-Oct-2018 07:14:42

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