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Sharp-shin said :
Still thinking that this would be a better way of going about making the older rewards more accessible, by encouraging membership sales and discouraging MTX, and making people really think about what they want instead of wanting everything and seeing what sticks. > )


Sharp-shin said :
1. Introduce a new currency, let's say "holiday points" to give it a name.
2. For every year of membership that you've exhausted, you gain a holiday point.
3. During the respective holiday, once you've completed that year's version of the holiday event, you're able to buy alternate versions of that type of holiday's discontinued rewards with your holiday point(s).
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05-Sep-2018 06:19:27

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05-Sep-2018 08:48:25

Whatusaytome
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You do realize you are contradicting what you expect from polling, Right?

You want a 75% pass to succeed and then you ask for more poll options to separate the votes.

I support re-polling, but I don't think it's necessary. Either you want Jagex to live longer and support them making revenue on something none of you nonsupporters use more than probably an hour a month, if that.. Or they can cater to bragging rights and not get an extra source of revenue. Which is more beneficial overall?
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05-Sep-2018 17:35:23

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05-Sep-2018 18:26:23

Pikachu78
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the poll has passed people ,and majority of the people want them back , bringing em back wont change the game in anyway as they are untradeable , people wont quit if old items come back if anything bringing back these items will increase the playerbase rather then decrease , i think they should make the holiday events like oldschool where you get the previous years items , it should have been this way from the start , as thats what they were made for to be fun little items, in fact old school polled about making new disconuinted holiday items and well it failed as expected, the runescape community clearly doesnt want holiday items to be discontiuned anymore or ever in either rs2 or rs3 as seen on multiple polls.
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05-Sep-2018 21:43:31

Whatusaytome
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Tahlzar, as long as somebody on your side continues to say displaying account age with these items is important, I will continue calling that Braggart status. You care more about the players who already have some items being able to display their age, more than you care about the many thousands of players who never had any chance to get them at all. You forbid every single person from them just to maintain this fact.

Sorry, I retract my support for re-polling. Looking at the numbers, over 25000 people more were in support. Regardless if you think 18% is low for not being 25%, you cannot deny 25000 is a significant number over people against it. A re-poll now is just an excuse to hopefully get numbers you like better than the existing numbers you don't agree with.

Regardless of anything, the fact remains. You do not use your own holiday items enough to say it's important to you, I certainly don't use mine enough. Draco might use his, being a 'collector of cosmetics', but he supports some items coming back as long as he personally wants them and contradicts his own reason for not supporting here.

No player uses them enough to forbid a return where they will be used more. Especially when the company asked us permission to sell them, and we already had the public vote to give them the permission to do so and it passed significantly.

If you say the purpose is to discuss if people want them to come back, we showed you that answer. If you wonder how, we gave you that answer too. Bringing them back gives new things for people to work for. And selling them on Solomon's makes Jagex added revenue regardless if significantly large or not.


I see absolutely no reason not to do this besides your arguments of account age displays which I have never had any reason to believe is more important, and appears to be more about status bragging.
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05-Sep-2018 23:37:20

Pikachu78
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Draco Burnz said :
Pikachu78 said :


No ppl dont want them back otherwise the poll wouldve gone through and we wouldnt be having this discussion.

So considering you continue to ignore the fact that ppl outcried about the poll thus forcing it not to happen isnt a reason for it to happen.
um the poll passed why you say it failed?why do you think theres an issue and theres was no massive outcry of the poll to change jagex minds the fact that the rerealse of items didn’t happen has caused an outcry in the community . You probably weren’t On forums during the 2016 xmas event there was so many complaints on here avout not getting the proper items from the past events so that clearly shows a high demand for the old items these complints where higher then those that dont want em to come back .
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06-Sep-2018 02:42:58

Draco Burnz
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Pikachu78 said :
um the poll passed why you say it failed?why do you think theres an issue and theres was no massive outcry of the poll to change jagex minds the fact that the rerealse of items didn’t happen has caused an outcry in the community . You probably weren’t On forums during the 2016 xmas event there was so many complaints on here avout not getting the proper items from the past events so that clearly shows a high demand for the old items these complints where higher then those that dont want em to come back .


Like how i say i wasnt on the forums when its you who denies the outcries from ever happening.
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06-Sep-2018 11:11:27

Sharp-shin

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[#CPBHP2XGQ] said :
While there was indeed a majority in the poll I personally don't think it should be implemented based on a single poll alone. As you can see the poll didn't pass by much. Imo polls for subjects like this should have a minimum of 75%. Also, the poll might have passed but they are under no obligation to follow that either. Polls are just for getting a rough idea of how the playerbase feels about something. As proven by this thread and various others there is quite a bit of differance of opinion on the matter.

Exactly. Plus I'd like to talk about something that I don't think has been considered before: when people are voting for stuff like this in the polls, the players voting in favor of the change/new stuff, typically do so because they think there's no downside to them personally for voting yes, so they're "might as well" voting in favor. Those said players are already playing though, so they're clearly happy about the state of the game as it is, and consequently they wouldn't really mind that much if the poll did not pass, continuing to play as normal.

On the other hand, the players voting against the change/new stuff, do so because they think it would harm the game; these players are likely happy with the current state of the game as well, but if the poll in which they voted against passed, that could ruin the game experience for them, causing them to quit.

So for example, if we look at the holiday item loyalty point poll, the 59% players voting in favor very likely continued to play after the poll closed and nothing happened, because they already were happily playing, while the 41% players voting against very likely would have had some of the players quitting, because a change they did not want was done.

That, along with ensuring that there really is a clear overwhelming majority in favor of the change/addition, is why Jagex chose wisely to implement a 75% yes threshold. > )
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06-Sep-2018 11:54:50

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