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Krashino

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Really, because again, I'm backing my argument up with some pretty successful companies right about now. Would you like me to give you the dates they were purchased as well as the amount they were purchased for? I bet I could dig up about 20 more that didn't end in the gutting or the change of the company being bought as well...

Bain Capital. Look at their track record. They're a Venture Capitalist firm much like IVP is one.

Need I continue?

You do realize that Foreign ownership accounts for over 20% of all US stocks, with a large possible increase over the next few years? Most of that 20% includes entire companies that are owned by Foreign Investment and are still operating. I dont see US companies dropping like flies. Also, I'm going to point out that if a company goes out of business or is gutted, they don't count towards that 20% seeing as their stock no longer exists. So yeah, looks like we deal with a lot of foreign ownership that doesn't ***** us over.

16-Mar-2016 20:55:23

Lady Deluxe

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If they wanted to, they could fire every single person that works for jagex and close runescape.

Not even that.

If their yes man decides to say no, they can simply unanimously decide to fire the CEO (and other executives if they so choose) and put in people that are not only yes men, but yes sir men.

Creative Freedom means diddly **** when you put this into context.

Again, completely wrong.
You guys really have no idea whats really going on here, all this is doing is freaking out other players...

I think jagex done a good enough job of freaking the people out on their own without the help of anyone else, if it was so simple and things are not going to change very much, why can jagex just not come out and say "not a lot is going to change"

They can not do that because as stated by themselves, they can not answer that, so it seems there is a hell of a lot more to this than what jagex want the actual customer to know.

If jagex were in control of this, a simple question like "will people keep their grandfather rates" would be able to be easily answered with a 100% yes of course they will. When a company gets brought out, of cause there will be change, it maybe over time, but yes there will be changes... And possibly employers may need to worry too...

I am not sure about take over such as this, but even if they sign a contract saying they wont change this, they wont change that and so on... it will change at some point... it can only be a short term contract, not a life time one... so change is inevitable...

16-Mar-2016 20:55:42 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 20:57:35 by Lady Deluxe

Krashino

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If they wanted to, they could fire every single person that works for jagex and close runescape.

Not even that.

If their yes man decides to say no, they can simply unanimously decide to fire the CEO (and other executives if they so choose) and put in people that are not only yes men, but yes sir men.

Creative Freedom means diddly **** when you put this into context.

Again, completely wrong.
You guys really have no idea whats really going on here, all this is doing is freaking out other players...

I think jagex done a good enough job of freaking the people out on their own without the help of anyone else, if it was so simple and things are not going to change very much, why can jagex just not come out and say "not a lot is going to change"



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What plans does the firm have for Jagex and our games?

The most important thing is that it’s business as usual for Jagex and for our games. The studio’s management has always been in charge of decisions relating to the continued development of our titles, and we don’t anticipate that changing. It’s the games and you as the community which have made us successful and the potential investor fully understands this as well. In the event that these negotiations are successful we do not foresee there to be any changes in how we develop and operate the games, and we will remain a Cambridge and UK based developer.

RuneScape is celebrating its 15th anniversary throughout 2016 with a whole host of content and new titles, and we look forward to building upon these successes in the coming years - regardless of the outcome of these current negotiations.


Literally the first page

16-Mar-2016 21:01:29

Disturbed 1

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This could be something great like "Legends"!!

or simply a "Recipe for Disaster"


however i have played Runescape for a long time and guess i will just strap in and take the ride.

p.s - dont let them make this look like maple story :(

16-Mar-2016 21:05:40

Team Skull
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You do realize that Foreign ownership accounts for over 20% of all US stocks

Which is a minority.

I also love how you completely dodged the point that Bain was known for gutting companies, and they're a Venture Capitalist firm much like IVP is.

If you really did know about business as much as you say you do, you'd know right now IVP is at the Exit stage of their financial cycle (in the Pump and Dump analogy, they're at the Dump stage) in terms of acquisition by another company for them to pick up the remains of the previous capitalist's pumping (which is essentially next to nothing). So I mean, you can stop trying to act like you know what you're talking about at this point.

So yea, there's pretty damn good reason to worry at this point, which leads me to this: Who are you to tell others to stop worrying? "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

16-Mar-2016 21:11:34 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 21:12:24 by Team Skull

Krashino

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Its the closest to Yes that any company will say...
They cant outright say "Yes this is going to happen" Not because they dont know, but because that could put them in an unfavorable position when it comes to negotiations, which could lead them to sacrificing other things just so they can keep their word to the community.

16-Mar-2016 21:12:08

Krashino

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You do realize that Foreign ownership accounts for over 20% of all US stocks

Which is a minority.

I also love how you completely dodged the point that Bain was known for gutting companies, and they're a Venture Capitalist firm much like IVP is.

If you really did know about business as much as you say you do, you'd know right now IVP is at the Exit stage of their financial cycle (in the Pump and Dump analogy, they're at the Dump stage) in terms of acquisition by another company for them to pick up the remains of the previous capitalist's pumping (which is essentially next to nothing).

So yea, there's pretty damn good reason to worry at this point, which leads me to this: Who are you to tell others to stop worrying?

In the business world 20% IS a lot, especially for Foreign investment, and who am I to tell others to stop worrying? I'm someone who is giving you all a sane and reasonable explanation, thats who.

16-Mar-2016 21:13:30

The TomBomb
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Really, because again, I'm backing my argument up with some pretty successful companies right about now. Would you like me to give you the dates they were purchased as well as the amount they were purchased for? I bet I could dig up about 20 more that didn't end in the gutting or the change of the company being bought as well...

Bain Capital. Look at their track record. They're a Venture Capitalist firm much like IVP is one.

Need I continue?

You do realize that Foreign ownership accounts for over 20% of all US stocks, with a large possible increase over the next few years? Most of that 20% includes entire companies that are owned by Foreign Investment and are still operating. I dont see US companies dropping like flies. Also, I'm going to point out that if a company goes out of business or is gutted, they don't count towards that 20% seeing as their stock no longer exists. So yeah, looks like we deal with a lot of foreign ownership that doesn't ***** us over.

You kept saying they wouldn't have much of any creative control. That was the whole argument, but you were wrong and somehow turned it into a "will they" scenerio instead. They CAN do it. But will they? Time will tell.
If they want to have the CEO gone, they can and will do it. Replace them with someone that can take runescape for all it's worth to get the most profit they can in the short term, and then drop jagex when they're about to tank. That has happened time and time and time again within the gaming industry. I wouldn't be so sure that it can't happen to us.

16-Mar-2016 21:13:44

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