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Eva Element

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Sorry Pips, but I'm not buying it. Everything you say can be condensed into one sentence:

"The company will have a new owner but we believe that said new owner will not even try to interfere in the way we run it."

And if you really believe that, I have a bridge you might like to acquire...


^ Pretty much all that should be said on this thread.

Can't help but feel we're getting a smoke and mirrors treatment.


Love the paranoia


it's not paranoia, it's being logical.

You don't buy 100% of the stocks of a company just to "let it run as normally". Any assurances that the company will run the way it is being run now is moot.


If the company is turning a consistent and steady profit yes you do. You only alter it if it is failing or not turning a profit. Buying it cheap, fixing it up so it becomes profitable then selling it for more money then you bought it for.
If a company is turning a consistent and steady profit you buy a large share so you are required to make minimal effort to profit on your diversity. You buy majority share if you're interested in the product and want to maintain that profit stream. You buy 100% share when you have a very strict financial strategy and don't want people messing with it.


Or you want access to the profit they have and want to make sure no one else can mess with it.

So business as usual.
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16-Mar-2016 17:43:46

Eva Element

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Scouse, you understand that bot nuke and bot busting came out before EOC right?



Optimus was perceived to be a second Bot Nuke originally planned for release in March, but was delayed until 3 May, 2012, when Jagex implemented it.

EOC was released on November 20th, 2012

See where i am coming from?


There were more anti bot updates since then you do realize right?
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16-Mar-2016 17:44:18

Scouse
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Scouse, you understand that bot nuke and bot busting came out before EOC right?



Optimus was perceived to be a second Bot Nuke originally planned for release in March, but was delayed until 3 May, 2012, when Jagex implemented it.

EOC was released on November 20th, 2012

See where i am coming from?


There were more anti bot updates since then you do realize right?


25 October 2011 at 2:37 PM GMT, an update code-named ClusterFlutterer ...

I remember this well because i was perm banned in it along with many others lol

But i never mentioned this 1 because it seems too far from EOC to have any impact on the player base.
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16-Mar-2016 17:49:57

Eva Element

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Scouse, you understand that bot nuke and bot busting came out before EOC right?



Optimus was perceived to be a second Bot Nuke originally planned for release in March, but was delayed until 3 May, 2012, when Jagex implemented it.

EOC was released on November 20th, 2012

See where i am coming from?


There were more anti bot updates since then you do realize right?


25 October 2011 at 2:37 PM GMT, an update code-named ClusterFlutterer ...

I remember this well because i was perm banned in it along with many others lol

But i never mentioned this 1 because it seems too far from EOC to have any impact on the player base.


Botwatch is the name of the software Jagex uses to detect accounts using bots ingame. This system received a major update in September 2012 along with the release of Botany Bay. According to Mark Gerhard, Botwatch is able to profile accounts and determine whether or not they are using botting software. Most other anti-botting measures have focused on protecting and obfuscating RuneScape's source code, but Botwatch doesn't focus on breaking the code of the botting software. Rather, it monitors an account's actions and determines whether or not it is human behavior. Certain checks are also in place to determine whether or not the game is being played using an official Jagex client.
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16-Mar-2016 17:51:47

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Sadly Eva i know full well about Botwatch and it's determination of whether the official client is being used or not.

But with that and the ones i mentioned does go a long way to determine reasons about how low the player count has become rather than the old "they left cos of eoc" argument lol
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16-Mar-2016 17:55:03

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It's a relief to read some of your answers to most of our burning questions. Specifically concerning MTX and future development.

We trust you on this, Jagex. And we'll continue to trust you as long as you keep your promises.

I hope you don't disappoint :)

p.s: I know you've broken promises in the past, but it'd be a VERY stupid move to lie about this.
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16-Mar-2016 17:58:27

Eva Element

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Sadly Eva i know full well about Botwatch and it's determination of whether the official client is being used or not.

But with that and the ones i mentioned does go a long way to determine reasons about how low the player count has become rather than the old "they left cos of eoc" argument lol


It does more then determine if client is being used. The older anti bot updates were more temporary effects.

Bot watch released a month before EoC was released did a lot of work in removing bots and keeping them relatively limited in game compared to before.
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16-Mar-2016 18:01:59

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No one claims players didn't leave with EoC. How ever the effect was exaggerated thanks to anti bot updates that also started coming online during the same time frame.

The people you know irl are ultimately an insignificant fraction of a percent of the total players on this game. So their leaving doesn't represent the vast majority of players.


What are you talking about?, people been claiming in-game and in this forums that we didn't lose players, that it was just bots being banned.

Are you serious on the last part?, I was just giving an small example of how real people left the game, even in-game my friend list is full of offline players (besides the ones I added recently...) and for obvious reasons no one on my friend list is a bot, most players this days can relate to that, and I'll give it a wild shot and include you, I'm certainly sure that players in your friend list quit at some point because of EoC.

Smh, this players, take your time to think and reply, don't just write whatever comes to your mind.

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