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Sorry Pips, but I'm not buying it. Everything you say can be condensed into one sentence:

"The company will have a new owner but we believe that said new owner will not even try to interfere in the way we run it."

And if you really believe that, I have a bridge you might like to acquire...

^ Pretty much all that should be said on this thread.

Can't help but feel we're getting a smoke and mirrors treatment.

Love the paranoia

it's not paranoia, it's being logical.

You don't buy 100% of the stocks of a company just to "let it run as normally". Any assurances that the company will run the way it is being run now is moot.

If the company is turning a consistent and steady profit yes you do. You only alter it if it is failing or not turning a profit. Buying it cheap, fixing it up so it becomes profitable then selling it for more money then you bought it for. I'm a big entropy fan.

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16-Mar-2016 17:34:11

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X, we're talking pre-eoc not pre-osrs, please read.

It's also a wide known fact that every single mobile game jagex has tried to make money off of flopped hardcore. Go read their wiki if you don't believe me.

I'm over this whole player base pre-eoc thing. Believe it or not I stuck around when EOC came out even after my entire friends list quit playing the game. I used to play EOC frequently and I don't completely dislike it so if there are any concerns that I'm biased then you're wrong. The fact that there used to be 150k active players and there are now only less than half that spread between two seperate games is the telling part. You can check a cached image search on google of 6 months prior to eoc and 6 months after of the main Runescape website if you wish.

The fact remains that if this new company screws this game up anymore, there won't be a profit to make, period.

16-Mar-2016 17:34:15

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Also a simple check of what jagex done to eradicate bots at about the same time shows that less people than you think actually quit the game.
You're death wrong mate, so many players been trying to excuse the low player base by giving credit to the bot nuke, that's far from reality, did we got rid off most bots?, yes, aside from that, did we loss player base when EoC came out?, YES, a big chunk.

Every single person I knew irl that played Runescape, didn't play anymore when EoC came out, I myself just came back weeks ago when double exp was enabled to max my pure.

16-Mar-2016 17:38:07 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 17:41:05 by of CIues

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It's a relief to read some of your answers to most of our burning questions. Specifically concerning MTX and future development.

We trust you on this, Jagex. And we'll continue to trust you as long as you keep your promises.

I hope you don't disappoint :)

p.s: I know you've broken promises in the past, but it'd be a VERY stupid move to lie about this.

16-Mar-2016 17:38:47 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 17:48:02 by Morgan

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Sorry Pips, but I'm not buying it. Everything you say can be condensed into one sentence:

"The company will have a new owner but we believe that said new owner will not even try to interfere in the way we run it."

And if you really believe that, I have a bridge you might like to acquire...

^ Pretty much all that should be said on this thread.

Can't help but feel we're getting a smoke and mirrors treatment.

Love the paranoia

it's not paranoia, it's being logical.

You don't buy 100% of the stocks of a company just to "let it run as normally". Any assurances that the company will run the way it is being run now is moot.

If the company is turning a consistent and steady profit yes you do. You only alter it if it is failing or not turning a profit. Buying it cheap, fixing it up so it becomes profitable then selling it for more money then you bought it for. If a company is turning a consistent and steady profit you buy a large share so you are required to make minimal effort to profit on your diversity. You buy majority share if you're interested in the product and want to maintain that profit stream. You buy 100% share when you have a very strict financial strategy and don't want people messing with it.
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16-Mar-2016 17:39:48

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it's not paranoia, it's being logical.

You don't buy 100% of the stocks of a company just to "let it run as normally". Any assurances that the company will run the way it is being run now is moot.

Depends on the thing on the contracts mod balance says they keep game design control so they can't just change the whole game and fire all uk employees because that would be contract breach wich would be bad for the investor if jagex sues them for that breach.

They surely have a contract with rules of what they keep to do and how the investors can interfere they can only demand higer profits nothing more nintendo has investors sony etc every company has.

lol idk if you know anything about company acquisition, but the only thing they can force the new owners to do is to keep employment contracts with their employees.

Even if somehow Jagex forced themselves into a bind where they legally have to do absolutely everything and only anything that one manager in the team says (which is seriously dumb for any owner), if they're paying $300m for a company it would be in their best interest and cheaper for them to squash the contract with that person and pay any fees that are associated with breaking the contract so they can have full control.

16-Mar-2016 17:40:02 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 17:41:58 by Flounder 22

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Scouse, you understand that bot nuke and bot busting came out before EOC right?


Optimus was perceived to be a second Bot Nuke originally planned for release in March, but was delayed until 3 May, 2012, when Jagex implemented it.

EOC was released on November 20th, 2012

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16-Mar-2016 17:42:13

Eva Element

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Also a simple check of what jagex done to eradicate bots at about the same time shows that less people than you think actually quit the game.
You're death wrong mate, so many players been trying to excuse the low player base by giving credit to the bot nuke, that's far from reality, did we got rid off most bots?, yes, aside from that, did we loss player base when EoC came out?, YES, a big chunk.

Every single person I knew irl that played Runescape, didn't play anymore since EoC came out, I myself just came back weeks ago when double exp was enabled to max my pure.


No one claims players didn't leave with EoC. How ever the effect was exaggerated thanks to anti bot updates that also started coming online during the same time frame.

The people you know irl are ultimately an insignificant fraction of a percent of the total players on this game. So their leaving doesn't represent the vast majority of players. I'm a big entropy fan.

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16-Mar-2016 17:42:30

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