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Im Mischief

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[...] however, none of them are equal to Jagex selling the game.


Jagex isn't selling the game, the company itself is being sold. Runescape will still be owned and developed by Jagex. The only thing that's changing is the investors.


No if they have majority control of the company, they have control over creative content including anything that is added or taken away from the game.

04-Apr-2016 01:37:48

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[...] however, none of them are equal to Jagex selling the game.


Jagex isn't selling the game, the company itself is being sold. Runescape will still be owned and developed by Jagex. The only thing that's changing is the investors.


The only thing that's changing is the OWNERS (they're buying 100% of jagex). They aren't saying 'here's some money make us some more'. They're buying the company.
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04-Apr-2016 01:38:51 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2016 01:39:08 by Angel2D4

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"I do see your point, and China is huge with a market much larger than the Euro and North American population, however, just because the company is a Chinese company does not mean that a majority of Chinese people will start playing. Example: I am an American, and I play RS and Jagex is a company founded and run in the UK; now if 50% of player stop playing this game, because Jagex sells, there would not be enough new Chines players to fill the loss. Imagine if more than 50% quit the game. Just because it is a Chines company does not mean Chines people will play it for that reason. Chines Internet is limited, so you are not looking at a potential billion, you are looking at a much lower demographic. Also may things things in this game are taboo in China. I said it before and I will say it again, China is the fun police. I am not completely opposed to Jagex selling, but not to a company located in one of the 3 communist countries left in the word, that have no idea how to allow individual thinking, and expressions of freedom."

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Perhaps the best place to begin addressing that -wall- is this:

You are aware that China has its' own iteration of world of warcraft, right? I mean, they modified it how they saw fit and it runs just fine (and is populated enough over there).

China (by all reported accounts) has more gamers than NA and Europe, combined.

The current players refusing to play it (for whatever reason) have absolutely nothing to do with how many WILL play it once it's available in China. You're only kidding yourself if you believe the American and Euro players would (or even could) prevent gamers in China from playing it.
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04-Apr-2016 01:44:45

Im Mischief

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[...] however, none of them are equal to Jagex selling the game.


Jagex isn't selling the game, the company itself is being sold. Runescape will still be owned and developed by Jagex. The only thing that's changing is the investors.


The only thing that's changing is the OWNERS (they're buying 100% of jagex). They aren't saying 'here's some money make us some more'. They're buying the company.


Jagex changed hand back on 2010 and after that the game changes drastically including real world trading A.E bonds for cash because they had control of the creative content. as you pointed out the games creative control has changed hands once before and when it did there was a massive drop in user activity and on top of that many of the people who left in 2010 never returned to game.
The game wont be in control of the same people like you said control will go o majority share holders.

04-Apr-2016 01:46:01 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2016 01:48:03 by Im Mischief

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Oh and Mischief.. if it gets locked down (behind that limited internet and governmental rules and regs) you might not even be offered the option to play it. lmao "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

04-Apr-2016 01:47:02

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Oh and Mischief.. if it gets locked down (behind that limited internet and governmental rules and regs) you might not even be offered the option to play it. lmao

My whole point was people would quit. and if they did make it so only chines people can play the game WILL fail. Theres no way the game can survive on chines players alone. Laid out in the simplest way, If this deal goes through me and many people will leave the game and then the game will die

04-Apr-2016 01:53:17

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Oh and Mischief.. if it gets locked down (behind that limited internet and governmental rules and regs) you might not even be offered the option to play it. lmao

My whole point was people would quit. and if they did make it so only chines people can play the game WILL fail. Theres no way the game can survive on chines players alone. Laid out in the simplest way, If this deal goes through me and many people will leave the game and then the game will die


So a market of 368M potential players isn't enough to keep the game running in your opinion?

ROFLMFAO
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04-Apr-2016 01:59:18

Im Mischief

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Oh and Mischief.. if it gets locked down (behind that limited internet and governmental rules and regs) you might not even be offered the option to play it. lmao

My whole point was people would quit. and if they did make it so only chines people can play the game WILL fail. Theres no way the game can survive on chines players alone. Laid out in the simplest way, If this deal goes through me and many people will leave the game and then the game will die


So a market of 368M potential players isn't enough to keep the game running in your opinion?

ROFLMFAO

Again, just because that is the potential does not mean that many people will play. My concern is the content of the game changing drastically and as you know from 2010 till today the game has changed in many ways due to the company being sold. I did not end my sub in protest, I ended my sub because the future of the game is uncertain. I have no desire to pay for members on my account until I know what is going to happen with this game. Players on this game have quit and never came back for much less. A huge drop in paying members can kill the game. If the game doesn't change in ways I dislike, I will be happy to P2P, but not if the content isn't something I like. I have been playing a long time, and there is only so much I am willing to adjust to. With any luck the game will stay great, if not why pay?

By your logic every gamer in the UK plays Runescape? Do you really think that is true?

04-Apr-2016 02:06:11 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2016 02:21:47 by Im Mischief

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"By your logic every gamer in the UK plays Runescape? Do you really think that is true?"

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Get outta that tunnel dude.. I never said anything of the sort and I never suggested that ALL of the potential gamers in China would sub to or play THIS game. Or that they would need to in order for the game to stay operational (and just because a game isn't one you care to play doesn't mean it's not appealing to other people).

MY logic is that it won't take nearly as many players as it currently has, to keep it up and running at a pretty good profit... with a better (hahaha, maybe that's not the word) cash shop available.

Don't try to offer your 'logic' as mine though... we clearly don't see everything (or much of anything) in the same way.
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04-Apr-2016 02:29:11

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I have been a member for the better part of 10 years. In October I it will have been 10 year. I have 1 OS account, and 2 RS3 accounts(P2P). 2015 I was a gold member. I let my sub laps due to work ect.. so don't act like you have a clue how much money I have spent on this game, or how much money I spend every month on this game.

EVERY player matters, not just people who have been here almost 10 years like me and you. New players matter also. EVERY person who plays this game matters.

Why would I pay for my accounts at this point in time? If Jegex sells to a company that doesn't know anything about MMO games, why would I stay if the content isn't what I want or what I like?



I never said how much money one player spends or doesn't spend matter much. If you don't spend, fine. I also did not spend a penny this year, I used Bonds, although I have been a paid member since the earliest date when subscription was started over 10 years ago. Happy now?

Also, don't get upset over a company selling itself to another. When you buy a stock, you don't expect yourself to hold it for life, right? Business turnover is normal. It all started with the Gowers selling part of Jagex to other investors, then came IVP and others, and now Honda. Do you think the Gowers knew MMOs when there were almost no MMOs other than Runscape and a handful others 15 years ago? Do you think IVP knew MMOs? I'll leave this the answer to yourself. But since you have been playing Runscape for over 10 years, seemingly you did not have any problem with IVP's "lack of knowledge in MMOs". It can be the same thing with Honda, maybe you will still find yourself playing Runescape when Honda takes over.

04-Apr-2016 02:57:06

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