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Lady Deluxe

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This thread is like a Russian doll with ever decreasing, nested circles of "he said; she said". Impressively pointless
Aaaaa but the nested dolls come to an end... That is the beauty of nested dolls cn we say the same about some of our fellow forumers...

03-Apr-2016 11:57:42

Im Mischief

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Dilbert2001

I have been a member for the better part of 10 years. In October I it will have been 10 year. I have 1 OS account, and 2 RS3 accounts(P2P). 2015 I was a gold member. I let my sub laps due to work ect.. so don't act like you have a clue how much money I have spent on this game, or how much money I spend every month on this game.

EVERY player matters, not just people who have been here almost 10 years like me and you. New players matter also. EVERY person who plays this game matters.

The fact that I don't post on forums is not indicative of a lack of passion for this game, it simply means I do not comment unless it effects MY game play, and I feel passionately about it. Not everyone bothers with forums or posting on them.

Why would I pay for my accounts at this point in time? If Jegex sells to a company that doesn't know anything about MMO games, why would I stay if the content isn't what I want or what I like? Why would I continue to pay for my accounts when the future of this game is in question... and yes it is in question. I would guess if more players knew about this, there would be more players ending members like I am. I never said I wouldn't p2p again, just that I am worried and I am not going to pay until I see what is going to happen. I believe this is reasonable considering how many accounts I have and how many hours I have put into this game.


I have stuck with RS thought PVP and free trade ban, graphic updates, and EOC. I played anyway. Some updates I hated with a passion, such as the PVP and free trade ban, however, none of them are equal to Jagex selling the game. I can't stop them from selling, but I don't have to pay until I know what the game is going to be like. "We pay we say" MY game experience matters to me. I am not happy they are thinking about selling, so I am not paying for a game that has an uncertain future.

04-Apr-2016 00:17:04 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2016 00:35:33 by Im Mischief

Angel2D4

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" I can't stop them from selling, but I don't have to pay until I know what the game is going to be like. "We pay we say" MY game experience matters to me. I am not happy they are thinking about selling, so I am not paying for a game that has an uncertain future."

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Mischief I've decided to wait to consider resubbing myself so I get where you're coming from on that aspect of it. I want to see what happens, before I spend money.

But I gotta tell ya.. the 'we pay we say' don't mean squat at this point (because jagex is being sold, again).

But surely you grasp that it isn't jagex that's "thinking about selling"?

Jagex was sold... in 2010.

To multiple investment companies (when Andrew sold controlling interest).

Those companies are the ones looking to sell now... not jagex... jagex is what's being sold and those working at jagex have ZERO say in whether or not the company gets sold.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

04-Apr-2016 00:51:15

Im Mischief

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" I can't stop them from selling, but I don't have to pay until I know what the game is going to be like. "We pay we say" MY game experience matters to me. I am not happy they are thinking about selling, so I am not paying for a game that has an uncertain future."

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Mischief I've decided to wait to consider resubbing myself so I get where you're coming from on that aspect of it. I want to see what happens, before I spend money.

But I gotta tell ya.. the 'we pay we say' don't mean squat at this point (because jagex is being sold, again).

But surely you grasp that it isn't jagex that's "thinking about selling"?

Jagex was sold... in 2010.

To multiple investment companies (when Andrew sold controlling interest).

Those companies are the ones looking to sell now... not jagex... jagex is what's being sold and those working at jagex have ZERO say in whether or not the company gets sold.


I know the mods have no control over Jagex (by company share holders) being sold, however, it does not matter who owns the company, if players do not pay, the game ends. No company buying or selling wants that to happen, so yes "we pay we say" does matter. Enough people stop paying, the game is not worth buying, or selling for that matter.

04-Apr-2016 01:08:18

Angel2D4

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"I know the mods have no control over Jagex (by company share holders) being sold, however, it does not matter who owns the company, if players do not pay, the game ends. No company buying or selling wants that to happen, so yes "we pay we say" does matter. Enough people stop paying, the game is not worth buying, or selling for that matter."

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LOL

I think you and I can simply agree to disagree on that aspect of the situation.

See, the way I see it is that China has more than enough gamers to sustain this small company for years to come (which in turn means that none of the existing players really matter enough to do more than go through the motions of 'we pay we say' and stopping memberships; an exercise in futility, at best).

Just because -these- players don't pay... doesn't mean THOSE players won't pay. See how that works..
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

04-Apr-2016 01:14:40

Angel2D4

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And just to add on to that which Mischief is saying...

Sure, the existing players could all stop paying and cause this game (both old and new) to close down. It could happen...

But does nobody else here keep up with any type of gaming news? Do we not already know with absolute certainty what Insight is well known for (as it relates to games they 'invest' in)?

The closing down of the game wouldn't stop Insight from off-loading the company though... so cutting off your nose to spite your face doesn't really seem conducive to what you really want (and that appears to be an unchanging game).

Good luck with that though..
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04-Apr-2016 01:19:20

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[...] however, none of them are equal to Jagex selling the game.


Jagex isn't selling the game, the company itself is being sold. Runescape will still be owned and developed by Jagex. The only thing that's changing is the investors.

04-Apr-2016 01:35:07

Im Mischief

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"I know the mods have no control over Jagex (by company share holders) being sold, however, it does not matter who owns the company, if players do not pay, the game ends. No company buying or selling wants that to happen, so yes "we pay we say" does matter. Enough people stop paying, the game is not worth buying, or selling for that matter."

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LOL

I think you and I can simply agree to disagree on that aspect of the situation.

See, the way I see it is that China has more than enough gamers to sustain this small company for years to come (which in turn means that none of the existing players really matter enough to do more than go through the motions of 'we pay we say' and stopping memberships; an exercise in futility, at best).

Just because -these- players don't pay... doesn't mean THOSE players won't pay. See how that works..


I do see your point, and China is huge with a market much larger than the Euro and North American population, however, just because the company is a Chinese company does not mean that a majority of Chinese people will start playing. Example: I am an American, and I play RS and Jagex is a company founded and run in the UK; now if 50% of player stop playing this game, because Jagex sells, there would not be enough new Chines players to fill the loss. Imagine if more than 50% quit the game. Just because it is a Chines company does not mean Chines people will play it for that reason. Chines Internet is limited, so you are not looking at a potential billion, you are looking at a much lower demographic. Also may things things in this game are taboo in China. I said it before and I will say it again, China is the fun police. I am not completely opposed to Jagex selling, but not to a company located in one of the 3 communist countries left in the word, that have no idea how to allow individual thinking, and expressions of freedom.

04-Apr-2016 01:36:16

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