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Stoat King

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I'm pretty sure that the one thing the new owners won't risk (at least for a good while) is to do anything that might endanger a cash cow that generates income from an industry it doesn't have much experience in.

Strangely, I don't see any fundamental difference between the positions of telcis and d4 other than glass half full vs half empty.
I'm sure we can agree that the glass isn't full lol

23-Mar-2016 12:46:31

Dilbert2001
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Please re-read what Mod Balance wrote on his original posts:

"Jagex’s shareholders have received offers of interest and have responded positively to an approach from a Chinese company."

Note that he wrote OFFERS, not OFFER. There are other bidders, and more importantly, its a strong indication Jagex's current management put the company up for sale instead of multiple compani [/quote]

But that doesn't add up, Jagex currently isn't owned by one entity. And this firm wants to buy 100%. So unless all the current investors decided to work together and sell it wouldn't be for 100%.

It could be that after hearing that Shandong mining put in an offer, other companies tried it as well. Or the wording isn't perfect.

Its just speculation but it seems unlikely that you are right.[/quote]

Jagex current owners all came on board at the EXACT SAME TIME when they bought out the Growers. Why does it not add up when they have common understanding all to sell the same company at the same time?

Again, you are just labeling things you don't agree with "unlikely" without giving reason. The fact came from an official JMOD. Go ask him if you want to.

23-Mar-2016 12:51:40

Tclcis

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That could be the case. It could also be that one party wanted to sell, were approached with an offer for 100% and brought that to the other parties involved.
I gave reason, I don't think that they would all want to sell out without some form of motivation.

I don't see the point in you trying to sew fear with your comments.

23-Mar-2016 12:58:45

Dilbert2001
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That could be the case. It could also be that one party wanted to sell, were approached with an offer for 100% and brought that to the other parties involved.
I gave reason, I don't think that they would all want to sell out without some form of motivation.

I don't see the point in you trying to sew fear with your comments.

What? I did not sew fear. I did not write that post, Mod Balance did. And I did not say it is good or bad. In fact, I told the person I replied to he should not have fear.

You didn't give any reason. You are just making another speculation to cover up your original speculation. My post was fact, straight fact from the post of an official JMOD. Again, why don't you go tell the JMOD it doesn't add up?

23-Mar-2016 13:04:20

Shady Guy

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*grabs popcorn*

I will say this... regardless of how you feel about this acquisition, seeing these two butting bulls in here has been highly entertaining. :P

I lean more towards the business as usual side, but of course almost everything in this thread is pure speculation - which makes the arguments all the more amusing. ;)

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I just remember the comparisons to MapleStory when IVP got majority share in Jagex a few years back. It never got as bad as what the doomsayers claimed it would get (I would know, I was one of them that got perm banned twice). Yes, the game slipped down the slope quite a bit. It never crashed and burned like the DOOOOOM example that was being tossed around.

Could it get worse with this Chinese mining company? Possibly. We're speculating on the reasons why the acquisition is taking place. NDAs prevent us from finding out the real reason. It could be a hedge as the Chinese economy is faltering. It could be that they see a game they can strip assets from eventually. It could be a chance to expand this to the Asian markets.

Will it get worse? Unknown. WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

Thus we wait. ~ Bill ^_^

23-Mar-2016 13:14:07

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Jagex current owners all came on board at the EXACT SAME TIME when they bought out the Growers. Why does it not add up when they have common understanding all to sell the same company at the same time? Andrew Gower (not Grower :P ) is the only one of the Gowers who has sold all his shares in the company. Ian and Paul still hold shares in the company, as does Constant Tedder (the original CEO of Jagex). The entirety of the shares are divided between 22 shareholdings.
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23-Mar-2016 13:25:03

Dilbert2001
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*grabs popcorn*



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I just remember the comparisons to MapleStory when IVP got majority share in Jagex a few years back. It never got as bad as what the doomsayers claimed it would get (I would know, I was one of them that got perm banned twice). Yes, the game slipped down the slope quite a bit. It never crashed and burned like the DOOOOOM example that was being tossed around.

Could it get worse with this Chinese mining company? Possibly. We're speculating on the reasons why the acquisition is taking place. NDAs prevent us from finding out the real reason. It could be a hedge as the Chinese economy is faltering. It could be that they see a game they can strip assets from eventually. It could be a chance to expand this to the Asian markets.

Will it get worse? Unknown. WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

Thus we wait.

We can all speculate but 3 different Chinese companies swallowed 3 separate western game developers within 2 weeks may not be a coincidence. Read the news on the acquisitions of Radiant by Tencent/Riot earlier this month and BigPoint by the China based developer of League of Angels yesterday. I don't doubt Chinese companies want to send their money offshore but why online gaming companies? If they are not interested in making/publishing games, there are hundreds of industries they can buy into.

You may call it speculation, and I'll agree it is, but I think these 3 different Chinese buyers have their eyes on the Asian markets instead of merely finding dummy shells for their RMB or stripping the assets of them. Another point is, it takes two to tangle. For every buyer there must be a willing seller. It may also mean different online gaming concerns are willing to sell out under the current condition.

23-Mar-2016 13:30:14 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 13:36:04 by Dilbert2001

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