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Nexus Origin

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You are quite literally saying that you'd invest 300M on a vending machine and not do ANYTHING with it (And no- showing it off isn't ''doing anything with it'') Well, obviously I would let it be a vending machine, and let it vend products to consumers, and collect the profits. But I wouldn't be moving it to a new location, or changing all the products. The whole reason I spent $300m on it is because it was doing extremely well exactly as it is. I wouldn't even change the label on the machine, I would just let it make money the way it has been doing all along.

They don't need to be involved at all, so long the ROI is as expected.

Maybe they will be involved, maybe they won't. We can only wait and see. But what I do know is that they won't be spending upwards of $300m just to ruin things. THAT would be illogical.
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30-Mar-2016 04:46:38 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2016 04:47:29 by Nexus Origin

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Well, obviously I would let it be a vending machine, and let it vend products to consumers, and collect the profits. But I wouldn't be moving it to a new location, or changing all the products.

Well, what if costs of operating said machine is actually cheaper elsewhere while STILL having a strong customer base and competent people to work on said machine if something were to go haywire? Unless something is literally stopping you from doing that, I do not see how a move would be illogical.

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Maybe they will be involved, maybe they won't. We can only wait and see. But what I do know is that they won't be spending upwards of $300m just to ruin things. THAT would be illogical.

Maybe they won't, that is true, but I would be surprised if they weren't involved given that they will have majority control on the BoD. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

30-Mar-2016 04:51:58

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Well, obviously I would let it be a vending machine, and let it vend products to consumers, and collect the profits. But I wouldn't be moving it to a new location, or changing all the products.

Well, what if costs of operating said machine is actually cheaper elsewhere while STILL having a strong customer base and competent people to work on said machine if something were to go haywire? Unless something is literally stopping you from doing that, I do not see how a move would be illogical. If that were the case, I would have just bought a vending machine in that area, instead of buying this one and having to incur all the relocation costs, etc.

If they simply wanted a software development company in China, it would be a lot easier and cheaper to simply start their own, rather than buying a foreign company. Especially if their plan is to abandon the current userbase.


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Maybe they won't, that is true, but I would be surprised if they weren't involved given that they will have majority control on the BoD. If they do get involved, I would suspect it would be more of a focus on the mobile market, a.k.a. RuneScape: Idle Adventures, as China is currently the leader in the mobile gaming market. Plus, it's a lot easier to have the game translated into Chinese while the game is being developed, instead of trying to undertake the massive task of translating a game like RuneScape which has thousands of hours of pre-existing dialog.
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30-Mar-2016 05:08:02

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If that were the case, I would have just bought a vending machine in that area, instead of buying this one and having to incur all the relocation costs, etc.

If they simply wanted a software development company in China, it would be a lot easier and cheaper to simply start their own, rather than buying a foreign company. Especially if their plan is to abandon the current userbase.

Now now, where did I say they'd abandon their playerbase? I'm just sayin': If costs to maintain competent staff are cheaper elsewhere, even when including costs like relocation, there's little reason NOT to move them.

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If they do get involved, I would suspect it would be more of a focus on the mobile market, a.k.a. RuneScape: Idle Adventures, as China is currently the leader in the mobile gaming market.

Likely, but to say they wouldn't have interest in Runescape itself would be folly.

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Plus, it's a lot easier to have the game translated into Chinese while the game is being developed, instead of trying to undertake the massive task of translating a game like RuneScape which has thousands of hours of pre-existing dialog.

Case in point: Pokemon Vietnamese Crystal because y'know- translations also take up game space and as seen in that game, translations aren't exactly up to *****. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

30-Mar-2016 05:37:46

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Now now, where did I say they'd abandon their playerbase? I'm just sayin': If costs to maintain competent staff are cheaper elsewhere, even when including costs like relocation, there's little reason NOT to move them. But at that point, they cease to be a UK based company, and become a China based company, and the whole point of them buying foreign is to move their money out of China where it isn't affected by the economic falling of the yuan. They could have bought any number of successful gaming companies in China, but the point is to move the money out of China. It would be illogical for them to buy foreign just to move it back locally.

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Likely, but to say they wouldn't have interest in Runescape itself would be folly. Of course they would have an interest in it, as they would have an interest in anything the company does. But having an interest doesn't mean that they will interfere with anything.
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30-Mar-2016 05:47:34

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But at that point, they cease to be a UK based company, and become a China based company, and the whole point of them buying foreign is to move their money out of China where it isn't affected by the economic falling of the yuan. They could have bought any number of successful gaming companies in China, but the point is to move the money out of China. It would be illogical for them to buy foreign just to move it back locally.

Remember what I said about it being long term? Wait out until the recession (should one happen, which is looking increasingly likely by the day) subsides (or, at least is lessened enough), then move the assets to China. As I said, recessions typically last for longer than a year, which exceeds what a business considers long term.

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Of course they would have an interest in it, as they would have an interest in anything the company does. But having an interest doesn't mean that they will interfere with anything.

That doesn't mean they won't attempt to change anything, either.

but on that note: 3 days have passed. What does the buying company's financials look like now? "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

30-Mar-2016 07:46:44

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Remember what I said about it being long term? Wait out until the recession (should one happen, which is looking increasingly likely by the day) subsides (or, at least is lessened enough), then move the assets to China. As I said, recessions typically last for longer than a year, which exceeds what a business considers long term. I doubt they intend to keep the company forever, as they most likely want to recoup their initial investment at some point, and relocating the entire company to China might make selling the company a bit more difficult later on. It seems more logical to leave the company as it is, collect the dividends, and then sell it when the recession is over to get their initial investment back. Once the recession is over, there will no doubt be another boom in which they will want to invest in, and they'll need their $300m to do that.

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That doesn't mean they won't attempt to change anything, either. That doesn't mean they will either. It's just speculation at this point. As has been stated numerous times, we will just have to wait and see.

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but on that note: 3 days have passed. What does the buying company's financials look like now? Dunno, haven't checked, been too busy doing research on things that actually affect my life lately, and I'm heading to bed shortly, but you've got the internet too, look them up, see if they've been made public yet. If you get a hold of them, let me know what you find.
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30-Mar-2016 08:17:37

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You are quite literally saying that you'd invest 300M on a vending machine and not do ANYTHING with it (And no- showing it off isn't ''doing anything with it'') Well, obviously I would let it be a vending machine, and let it vend products to consumers, and collect the profits. But I wouldn't be moving it to a new location, or changing all the products. The whole reason I spent $300m on it is because it was doing extremely well exactly as it is. I wouldn't even change the label on the machine, I would just let it make money the way it has been doing all along.

They don't need to be involved at all, so long the ROI is as.

I tend to agree with nexus. If I had to bet on an outcome, it would be this - no change - and for the reasons nexus gives.
Whether the new owners try to set up a parallel team in China is a little more vexed. Wouldn't like to bet on that. Thats a long term thing though.

30-Mar-2016 09:11:48 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2016 09:13:17 by Stoat King

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Vending machine releasing an appropriate game into a large mobile based market.

Id say that's the icing on the cake for the deal.

Is that in development? Sounds a bit risky. I really know nothing about this though

30-Mar-2016 09:14:14

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