RuneScape Forum Archive | Potential Acquisition

Aug

2008

Team Skull

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HR at Jagex is Human Resources - that is they are responsible for the staff within the business. That ranges from payroll to recruitment to training to employment benefit packages to performance management of individuals and beyond. It does not include establishing procedures or processes outside of those staff based functions*

**, Public Relations, has a very different role providing a public face to the business and interacting with various media outlets to ensure that they know about what we are doing and why we are doing it. At Jagex they also provide event management so are heavily involved in things like RuneFest.

so you're telling me HR at Jagex has absolutely no involvement in what PR does whatsoever?

...I find that to be...interesting, to say the least. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 09:30:21

Mod Matthe

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HR at Jagex is Human Resources - that is they are responsible for the staff within the business. That ranges from payroll to recruitment to training to employment benefit packages to performance management of individuals and beyond. It does not include establishing procedures or processes outside of those staff based functions*

**, Public Relations, has a very different role providing a public face to the business and interacting with various media outlets to ensure that they know about what we are doing and why we are doing it. At Jagex they also provide event management so are heavily involved in things like RuneFest.

so you're telling me HR at Jagex has absolutely no involvement in what PR does whatsoever?

...I find that to be...interesting, to say the least.

That is normal operating practice in almost any business of any substantial size I have ever been involved with. Small businesses often combine some elements of HR and marketing/PR functions because of the requirement of people focused skills for both, but it is very uncommon for that to be the case once they require separate departments. Mod MattHe | Former Community Manager, now in Events & occasional Lore Monkey

23-Mar-2016 09:45:46

Aug

2008

Team Skull

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That is normal operating practice in almost any business of any substantial size I have ever been involved with. Small businesses often combine some elements of HR and marketing/PR functions because of the requirement of people focused skills for both, but it is very uncommon for that to be the case once they require separate departments.

I mean, way I was seeing it:

HR pretty much watches what each employee is doing whether it be directly or indirectly (I mean, that is what Performance Management is in essence). This includes PR. If PR messes up somewhere, that's on HR since they're the ones who have to clean up the mess that was left behind since in most businesses, they're the ones who hired those people and are responsible for what they do since that reflects on them as employees as well.

So way I was seeing it: While they may be separate departments, to say they aren't involved with each other would be folly. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 10:00:55

Mod Matthe

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That is normal operating practice in almost any business of any substantial size I have ever been involved with. Small businesses often combine some elements of HR and marketing/PR functions because of the requirement of people focused skills for both, but it is very uncommon for that to be the case once they require separate departments.

I mean, way I was seeing it:

HR pretty much watches what each employee is doing whether it be directly or indirectly (I mean, that is what Performance Management is in essence). This includes PR. If PR messes up somewhere, that's on HR since they're the ones who have to clean up the mess that was left behind since in most businesses, they're the ones who hired those people and are responsible for what they do since that reflects on them as employees as well.

So way I was seeing it: While they may be separate departments, to say they aren't involved with each other would be folly.

Errrrr... no. In most businesses managers within teams or over them will be responsible for the actual performance of individuals and that is certainly the case in Jagex. HR provides the process for how staff is treated in those circumstance but they are not involved in the process in action except to ensure it is legal and fair.

HR is certainly not PR as you were previously suggesting. And every team interacts in some way during the normal course of business, they all interact. But involvement implies something deeper. Mod MattHe | Former Community Manager, now in Events & occasional Lore Monkey

23-Mar-2016 10:06:26

FiFi LaFeles

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I worked in Personnel (as it used to be known) and then HR for 25 years, in a range of mid to large businesses.

Management shape the direction of the company and make all the major decisions. These decisions are passed to the various departments, be they H.R. or PR , Marketing, whatever who then go about the business of implementing the dictats of the 'higher echelons'.

Each individual department then - if you like - micromanages whatever part of the overall picture that relates to their specific field of expertise

H.R. and PR would not be stepping into each others' specialist field any more than HR would be influencing a Sales department

H.R. manages the minutiae of employment law, equality observation, content of employee contracts, timely payment of salaries, disciplinary procedures and the like.

In my HR Exams and in practice, I never had to step into the world of PR.

Just sayin'

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23-Mar-2016 10:21:28 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 10:23:00 by FiFi LaFeles

Aug

2008

Team Skull

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Errrrr... no. In most businesses managers within teams or over them will be responsible for the actual performance of individuals and that is certainly the case in Jagex**** provides the process for how staff is treated in those circumstance but they are not involved in the process in action except to ensure it is legal and fair*

** is certainly not PR as you were previously suggesting. And every team interacts in some way during the normal course of business, they all interact. But involvement implies something deeper.

...Interesting.

Well, thanks for the insight. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 10:22:43

Aug

2008

Team Skull

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"Will the investors be involved in the development of Jagex’s games?
Our approach of putting community at the heart of games development is something we hold dear and has been a massive part of why RuneScape continues to be so successful. If the talks result in an acquisition, we expect to continue with this community driven approach in everything we do.
"

best joke ever

look at funorb. since 2010 no update
look at ace of spades. a ****** bugged dlc
look at oldschool rs. every month new member items FOR COMBAT 90+

To be completely fair mate...

All but 07 have nothing involved with Runescape. None. Zilch. Zero. Nil. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 11:01:40

Tclcis

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Hey, I would just like to point out that human resources was a small mistake by D4 that was part of a response to the topic.

Its a simple mistake that has been blown out of proportion. Now that its been explicitly stated can everyone please realise that its not the topic of the thread.

23-Mar-2016 11:27:15

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Players come to a game for fun, not to worry about the future of the game.

I see a lot of posts are from free players. Hey, what's the big deal? You don't even pay. But then some may have paid. Well, it is not a big deal either. At least for the next 3 months I don't think there will be any change.

If you feel like playing, just play as usual. If you feel like paying Jagex for the fun, just pay as usual. It is like paying for a movie. You don't ask what will happen to the movie producer 3 months later.

This may be a Chinese company somebody may be paranoid about but they won't just wipe your accounts out for no reason. Just follow all the rules and don't pay unauthorized parties anything then you will be ok.

Never have I been more tempted to resub than today. Think, logically, I'm going to have to wait now until I see what becomes of it (perhaps as early as the end of next month).

You are right though, it's about having fun and (for me) this discussion has been a blast (beast entertains the hell out of me!).

You don't have to wait. You can just resub for the next 3 months as it is highly unlikely anything will be changed in that period.

BTW, if you still have fear about this potential acquisition, you will continue to have fear even if Jagex's current owners don't sell the company to the mining company because the chance is it will be sold to another company who can make a higher bid. Please re-read what Mod Balance wrote on his original posts:

"Jagex’s shareholders have received offers of interest and have responded positively to an approach from a Chinese company."

Note that he wrote OFFERS, not OFFER. There are other bidders, and more importantly, its a strong indication Jagex's current management put the company up for sale instead of multiple companies just coincidently made offers to buy Jagex all at the same time.

23-Mar-2016 12:20:34

Tclcis

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Please re-read what Mod Balance wrote on his original posts:

"Jagex’s shareholders have received offers of interest and have responded positively to an approach from a Chinese company."

Note that he wrote OFFERS, not OFFER. There are other bidders, and more importantly, its a strong indication Jagex's current management put the company up for sale instead of multiple companies

But that doesn't add up, Jagex currently isn't owned by one entity. And this firm wants to buy 100%. So unless all the current investors decided to work together and sell it wouldn't be for 100%.

It could be that after hearing that Shandong mining put in an offer, other companies tried it as well. Or the wording isn't perfect.

Its just speculation but it seems unlikely that you are right.

23-Mar-2016 12:44:28 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 12:47:11 by Tclcis

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