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Southeaster
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Don't ask me for details if you don't want 'em. (I.E., "Please tell me what world you saw 20 players at." )

Sorry about that, my tone was too harsh. But what's the point of correcting "within a few days" with "within the first week"?
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And you call giving players the opportunity to shape future gameplay/lore laziness, I call it awesome. To each their own, I guess.

(Which BTS are you talking about, exactly? I couldn't find anything on the ones I looked at.)

I said the God Emissaries update itself was lazy. And it is. It looks like they spent 15 minutes planning its content. And you actually think it's awesome. Lolwut.

I'm talking about May and June . Can't find April's.

May's comments are full of disappointment. June's comments are better due to the Order of Ascension. You might notice unhappy comments by well known lore enthusiasts such as Amascut, Balustan and Wahisietel.

This thread is also representative of the lore community's views:
Quests in the Making
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As a fan of the lore, I'm excited. The 6th age looks to be game-changing (pardon the pun). We get to help write/create the lore! What could be better than that? Not much in my view.

I was very excited about that back when TWW was released, but now, there's
1) My semester starting and my membership expiring
2) Crap from March up until now

Heck, Battle of Lumbridge clashes with my orientation. What bad affinity.

I'm not cynical for no reason, damn it.

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Southeaster
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And again, my point is there are going to be people complaining no matter what Jagex does. (And again with the language!)
The issue is what the complaints were about. I don't deny that some people just complain for the sake of complaining, but there were flaws with God Emissaries, and they were very easy to be fixed. No, seriously, how hard is it to make people redo tasks, and implement a warning? The more I did it, the more it resembled to me one of those ''Make X/Kill X'' quests people like to peg to World of Warcraft.
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Yes and no. I think EoC was more ready on release than HTML5 seems to be (although partially not Jagex's fault, the browser companies/communities need to get their act together already /rant)(but still partially their fault for not waiting until HTML5 is more stable.)

Yet, they've hyped it up, both in-game and to the press, and are adamant to go ahead with it. Recipe for Disaster waiting to happen. Come 22nd July, the players will be ready to rub Salt in Jagex's Wound. And there's no excuse Jagex can give, they released RS3 As a First Resort.

(Lol.)
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And yet, people are.

Like I said a few days back, I'm pretty sure it's due to the OSR Hiscores being slow to update. Unless Jagex made membership for Old School separate in a hidden update.

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I honestly cannot see how you can be so optimistic about the outlook of the game. Since I started playing again last year, I've seen mainly negative stuff like half assed or rushed updates, moneygrabbing promotion after moneygrabbing promotion, player base getting the shaft, lies and broken promises, refusal to acknowledge in-game problems, taking ages to fixing potentially game-breaking issues, etc, etc, etc. It's just too much. It's enough to drive most people nuts who play this game.
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Matchgirl42
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FYI, I wasn't ignoring this thread, the move IRL nearly did me in (never again! Ugh. Next time I'm hiring packers *and* movers), then I got caught up in the Battle of Lumbridge.

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Lol you actually think the next six months will be awesome. Okay, let's see in December. Too bad I'll be F2P then. To quote Moerdred: ''I used to be a lore geek, then I took a squeal to the knee.''
I don't know about you, but I'm really enjoying the battle of lumby. I don't know exactly what the development team has planned, but I'm hoping for some kind of final four-type thing where the gods are eliminated one by one until there's only one left in the world. Not killed, no, but...kind of the successor to Guthix, that keeps the others out via edicts, so they can only act through their followers? Aaaaand now I've got the soundtrack of The Highlander running through my head.....

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As for the two Grandmasters: I've not done BoE, but the consensus I saw in Future Game Updates was that it didn't deserve a Grandmaster title. As for The World Wakes, plot-wise, it was rather predictable. There wasn't much intrigue imo, besides Sliske randomly killing Guthix at the end. I can't say for sure if TWW deserves the Grandmaster rating as well, but I won't deny that it was a necessary quest for the God series.


I haven't done BoE yet either, but judging from the walk-thru, IMO it does deserve the title. I thought the Elder Kiln was challenging - oofdah! TWW wasn't that predictable to me, maybe just different experiences with it. As a fan of the lore, I highly enjoyed it, and I'm greatly intrigued by the possibility hinted that the player might assume godhood at some point. And I liked the inclusion of puzzles in with it, so that it wasn't about just combat. And of course, it bringing about the 6th age...so far the 6th age is off to a rousing start, IMO!
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04-Aug-2013 03:41:48

Matchgirl42
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I have a friend IRL who botted 10m Cooking exp because he was too lazy. Eventually he couldn't even be bothered to bot. I have another friend who was crazy about GeePee (he bored me to no end with his merching strategies) and he quit after he got cleaned by a ''merching clan recruiter''. All , and I stress all , of the MMORPG gamers I know IRL behave like this.

We know different people IRL, then, because all of the MMORPG gamers I know IRL don't act this way. :)

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You took this the wrong way, I wasn't bashing people who grind in general.

Good. Glad we cleared that up.

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Let's agree to disagree.

Sure, ok.

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Again, let's agree to disagree. I should point out however, that Daily Challenges constitute about 70% of my current exp gain because I hardly ever skill.

That's one of the things I like about the current game, actually - there's something for everyone. There are *so* many activities available to do in the game, it's difficult (IMO) to get bored with it.

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Were it not against forum rules, I could post you A LOT of external links to show you exactly what IVP is doing to Jagex. Oh well, that's what venture capitalists do, they extract value from companies and leave them lifeless, bankrupt, debt racked husks of their former selves.


I'm not arguing that it's not what venture capitalists do in general (cough Romney cough), but I don't feel, from the information I have access to and have seen, that it's what is happening in this instance. I can't remember where I saw it and can't find it right now, but Jagex is not a publicly traded company - they are very selective in who they sell shares to, and it's limited. AFAIK, the Cambridge management team is still very much in control of the game. (cont)
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04-Aug-2013 04:01:06

Matchgirl42
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(cont) I did do a bit of research, and most of what I'm coming across is just people's opinions of what is going on, not facts. Opinions are just opinions, and I'm not downplaying the impact of negativity at all (I point to my previous posts on the subject), but opinions are not the same as facts. As an American myself I agree that we don't have the best reputation in the rest of the world, but we're not all greedy capitalists, I can assure you of that much. I won't say anymore on that score because I don't want to stray any more off-topic than this discussion already has, or run afoul of any forum rules myself. My motto is to be nice if I can, but also to not suffer trolls.

04-Aug-2013 04:06:37

Matchgirl42
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Again, let's agree to disagree. And running to Canifis is not really a pain if it's a one time thing. They could have made Priest in Peril a quest requirement. But no...

Yeah let's agree to disagree on the PITB factor. :) And removing the priest in peril requirement was part of the release of the morytania tasks (March 27 2012) and had nothing to do with the lodestones...
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Children are exposed to far worse things online, and there's a chat filter. I'll use swear words if I deem it necessary.

To be utterly frank - don't be so immature. Just because children are exposed to worse things doesn't mean you have to expose them to swear words as well. Honestly. Are you incapable of filtering yourself out of respect for the people around you?

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Oh right. Managing Miscellania, and penguin hunting. I stand by my point that there's one less reason to do The Fremennik Trials, though. (Enchanted Lyre)

That reminds me, while you can say that the Lyre brings you into Rellekka itself, the lodestone is better to use because I don't have to access a bank for the lyre, and I have to regularly recharge the lyre.

Rellekka has:
-One of the 5 places in the entire game you can buy packs of water vials (and another, Jossick in the lighthouse, is close by)
-One of the 12 places in the entire game you can buy feathers for the store price and in bulk
-Access to Waterbirth isle (and you can change your lyre destination to go right to it as well)
-The only place to get a pet rock
-mining spots and NPCs to fight on Neitznot and Jatizso
-Access to Lunar Isle (to unlock lodestone)
-Access to Pirate's Cove, a generally uncrowded place to kill Moss Giants

And some of the places/items require completion of the Fremennik Trials, so there's still an incentive.
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04-Aug-2013 04:31:20

Matchgirl42
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Sorry about that, my tone was too harsh. But what's the point of correcting "within a few days" with "within the first week"?
As I recall, we were talking about people swarming a piece of content in the first few days, then it's dead. I was pointing out that I didn't see swarms of players in the first 2-3 days, I was seeing swarms of players the entire first week.

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I said the God Emissaries update itself was lazy. And it is. It looks like they spent 15 minutes planning its content. And you actually think it's awesome. Lolwut.


And if it was just by itself, I would agree. But it's part of the bigger release of RS3 and the 6th age. Which is my whole point. You saying it was lazy because it's not huge by itself is kind of like saying the update that gave us potion flasks was lazy. It's also ignoring the huge amount of work that goes into the graphic design behind it.

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I'm talking about May and June. Can't find April's. May's comments are full of disappointment. June's comments are better due to the Order of Ascension. You might notice unhappy comments by well known lore enthusiasts such as Amascut, Balustan and Wahisietel.


I read through May and June - it looks to be about even honestly, between positive and negative reactions - if anything, more positive than negative, especially once you get past the first 10 pages. Looks like the original Quests in the Making thread is gone; I found the replacement, it seems to be fairly positive to me.
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04-Aug-2013 04:57:37

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