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G0ld
Dec Member 2019

G0ld

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Jagex,
I'm a veteran and I started playing in 2004 with my noob account.I used to enjoy the every minute I played, every level I gained, every event with my clan.You used to do great updates, for example new quests, skills and minigames.

Past the few years, I've faced some updates(Sof,solomon's store,armour updates) that I really don't like.I'm not going to whine about those updates, because I tried to adapt with them.And so I did, until eoc.This was too much for me.

I dont like these abilities because it changes the whole style of this game.The simplicity and uniqueness made this game stand out from other games.I liked the ''click, wait'' style of the old combat.This new update ruins the game for some of us.

Ofcourse there are veterans and especially some new people who prefer this update to the old game.But how about the people who agree with me and like the old game?You force us either leave or learn the new system and deal with it.That is not really caring.I lost my faith in you long ago.

I know you have said that you won't be making ''rs2'' servers for people like me because its impractical and you cant fit the updates for both type of server.Well, in my opinion you DON'T need to update the old servers.They are perfect just in the way they were before.

I have the same problem as the current rank 1 player, S U O M I, has.I just don't enjoy this game anymore.That's because of the updates.

Few more things I'd like to add in the end:

-Sorry for typos, I'm from Finland
-Sorry for the long post, I'm just afraid of that this is my last post
-Good luck to everyone who still go on playing.Enjoy the game!
-Thanks to the Gower brothers for making this great game that I used to enjoy for many years.


-G0ld Arrowz-

E:edited some typos.

22-Nov-2012 20:39:29 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2012 20:42:17 by G0ld

Firemage030

Firemage030

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Hello. I'm glad to see that Jagex is actually looking at the forums to see what we had to say. However, I disagree with some of the points you have made:

"I'd like to challenge the idea that Jagex has disregarded feedback and ignored players. We've made countless changes based on player feedback, and some of the most major additions & tweaks were directly because of player suggestions. I suspect that "don't do EoC" is really what you're talking about, but it has to be said that this kind of sentiment is not really feedback."

-I do see the purpose behind some of the changes made. Like reducing the runes needed for spells, and adding new equipment. But some of the changes benefit nobody in any way, like making protect prayers no longer reduce %100 percent of damage taken in PVM. It can't be because of PVP, because the effects were already reduced when fighting another player. I doubt that this idea came from player feedback. Could you please elaborate on the reasoning behind this?

"Problems with the old combat system were abundant and pronounced. It may have been simpler and it may have been familiar, but it was also shallow and deeply broken."

- Could you please elaborate on this too? I don't understand where the flaws were in the old combat system.

"The idea that EoC might be "too complex" for someone to learn is difficult to justify when you consider it is entirely possible to replicate the click & go combat of old, just by starting a fight as you always have and then, within a few smaller hits to build up Adrenaline, letting the "Momentum" Ability off, giving you the same powerful hands-free hits you're used too. It's a tiny adjustment, really."

- I beg to differ. I believe this is more than a tiny adjustment for many players. Now we have to let our adrenaline bar fill up before we can return to something that resembles old gameplay, for only 20 seconds.

An explanation for all of these things would something I have yet to see. Thanks.

23-Nov-2012 03:17:03

UnderMage
Oct Member 2011

UnderMage

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I absolutely hate the new combat level system, now high levels mean absolutely nothing. Someone can get 99 defense and high alch to 99 mage and be a level 200, while someone who has spent a long time and has 90 in every combat skill will be a level 182.

I don't pvp but im just wondering how you would even possibly size up your opponent, he might have level 1 att str prayer and range with 99 def and mage or he might have 99 in every combat skill

Also i really don't care about seeing anyone's total level when I right click them, maybe its just me but I find it annoying. Unfortunately after years and years of playing runescape (on this account and my other) I think the end of my membership in 2 months will be the end of runescape for me. Its really sad to quit the game ive played since my early teens and I've tried to use the new combat system but i just cant enjoy it.

23-Nov-2012 04:44:35

Xeiona

Xeiona

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Well let's see, as a Vertern player. I know the difference. I know how this game used to be. it didn't need "bling" to be popular. Any good game needs is a hiscores board and someone to be better then and to be challenging but not impossible :) . But they all change into this monstrosity.

It was simply addictive, everyone can say it was. But now, honestly, (I do not combat at all and never will never have) I find the update annoying to play with, anything as simply as teleporting to a different location, I have to go to the tab that isn't rubbish. And questing seems more of a pain then it's worth. I liked it for it's storyline. The game would be playable if in the options you could "hide" all the new things.

I'm scared to do certain things, cause it makes it feel like i'm cheating. Money is becoming useless, you can get it for just clicking a button.
When you have everything, this game is boring no matter what. I liked the challenge of "earning" my money. This update and updates similar to Jagexs apatite for money, is slapping the faces of the players who worked for it.

In my onion, i feel runescape was so popular BECAUSE it was so simple. It stayed to its roots. While other games changed to a similar combat method they slowly became unpopular. I've seen many games die Because the combat will soon be "if i click 39274 i win."
I see the need for food, pots, and anything becoming pointless. Honestly, this games combat is becoming a mashing buttons game. And it makes me sad.

And the fact it's blatantly obvious its for the new players. It seems everything i do for money will eventually die. I was getting herbs from my kingdom today, realizing no one will want potions soon.


I'll play till i get the 99 im after.(if i don't i'll have the sinking feeling.)

Then i'll cancel my membership.
it's a good game but for worth paying for anymore.

It's honestly just a shame. The game was fine.

Don't fix something that isn't broken.

-Missing Runescape

23-Nov-2012 05:02:56

Skcarkden
Nov Member 2012

Skcarkden

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I tried using fighting nomad with this EoC today.

"You may not use this ability in this area" showed up a few times.
Seriously? why even make this update if you're going to make it we can't use the abilities? What's worse is, i have to literally use every single ability to work out which ones will work in any area because some genius didn't think "Maybe we should make it abilities don't highlight if they can't be used in areas-nah, let's troll them with it"

I'm willing to try to give EoC a fair go, but jagex has already had a horrible track record with things. Refusal to rollback data when they caused a bug that had people lose items when inside a "safe" mini game, effectively ruining many many people who expected safety in such content, jagex, who claim to focus more on the fun of a game, not money, sure showed them "fun" with their warped sense of humour.

I recently made a thread about the fact the spot where the quest tab used to be is now not in use, someone replied it's used for dungeoneering when i was suggesting splitting abilities from this EoC so the spellbook could remain spells only, so i stop bothering that untill i recently tried dungeoneering. and what do i learn? the tab icon for squeal of fortune and solomon's store is blank during Dungeoneering, but NOW the former quest tab is used for a dungeon interface which the ring always had. so what the hell does this show? That jagex don't ever use logic. They'll remove a tab interface to leave blank in the normal game, replace it during a mini-game but also remove another tab instead of replacing that other tab with the dungeon interface and making use of the former quest tab for something... USEFUL.

I used to love this game, but after coming back from a 2 year break, to return to a simplified i find it's now being made more complex, with pointless changes, only to find everything i see is just tragic now i just keep finding so many flaws, ideas that are so bad it must be some bad joke i might not stay

23-Nov-2012 08:51:43

Silverwulff

Silverwulff

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Jagex spin, trying to smooth the waters and keep the hemorhage of player under control. Start telling the truth for a change. The fact is you don't give a rat's ass what the players want, you only care about their money.

I took my money away from you a couple of years ago. I log into f2p once in a while, but WILL NOT take my small amount of leisure time to RELEARN a game I've been playing for nearly a decade. A decade is longer than most of you in the ivory tower have been employed by jagex.

I believe you have made a fatal mistake. Only time will tell who knows what they are spewing.

23-Nov-2012 16:50:57

xRytis
Dec Member 2023

xRytis

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Jagex if you care about your community; make a poll- let us decide if we want EOC or not. It's the worst update in my past 7 years of playing and strongly demotivated me to continue playing. RS2 or nothing.

23-Nov-2012 20:20:55

Saltenis_LTU

Saltenis_LTU

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Hello jagex mods and all stuff, now i think runesacpe degenerated, now too much clicking alot comfusing... to many changes. need change rs but slower and not such a huge steps. I agree with those ho dont want eoc. Dont copy other games, like lineage wow... we playing rs for uniqueness from other games. Time to end eoc and back in old track

YEP OLD TRACK

lets vote ho wanna eoc and old rs.
we paid, we said

Sincerely
Pvmsaltenis

23-Nov-2012 20:34:23 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2012 20:44:07 by Saltenis_LTU

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Hello Jagex
Can we ask you something? Where are the promised extra bank spaces for the loyalty shop? We've not received them yet. Or do you only care about those who buy things from you? Why Should we pay? To have the bank space needed to store all the things you add to the game

Mod Mark
Why are you still in charge of the game? You have lied to us so much, we can't trust you anymore. You say you don't lie to us & yet we see it with every post you make. You prove you wont listen to us with every post you hide from the public eye that complains about the EOC

I know you have hidden many of my posts calling you out for the coward you are. You don't answer our questions & you ignore us about a poll. Why do you continue with this mass fallacy? Why do you hide from our questions?

I know why you hide from our wrath. It's because you are a coward & wont face the truth of things. We don't like this EOC update. We don't like what you've done to Runescape. Tell me Jagex just why do you hide from us?

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. The only thing you understand is our money Jagex! Therefore I implore all haters of the EOC update to Cancel their monthly subscriptions

Please send a written request for a refund for all remaining days of your membership to [email protected] om They wont refund you but by doing this, it will tell them just how serious we are

Send a e-mail to [email protected] om & tell them why you cancelled your subscription. Tell them why you wont renew your membership & Tell them why you don't like the EOC update

Consider Joining a Recognized Runescape Fan Sites to sign the petitions & join the class action Lawsuit. We wont get the old game back unless we fight for it. We must Stand united. I beg all the players that hate the EOC to Cancel their subscriptions & to Log off

Lets fight to bring back the old Combat system. So, who's with me?

Copy & paste this message to help Spread the word

We haters of the EOC update must unite

24-Nov-2012 12:00:39

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