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Ian Peregrin

Ian Peregrin

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Mod Drebin: "There's really nothing that has changed other than giving everyone a massive amount of flexibility to fight how they want, and to look freaking awesome whilst doing it!"

Blatant Jagex lies at their finest.

Nope, there's a lot more that has changed. Try using an Enhanced Excalibur as a "first aid kit" outside of combat. One example out of thousands.

Who exactly do you try to fool?

21-Nov-2012 18:07:58

Mod Drebin

Mod Drebin

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@Ian Peregrin,

I'm sorry dude but calling lies and creating a twisted "conspiracy" vibe is beyond silly, so I can't really engage with your comments.

All the best,
Mod Drebin

21-Nov-2012 18:11:55

Mod Drebin

Mod Drebin

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@Plum Nutty 1,

Oh sure, I totally understand we all have different levels of dexterity and combat proficiency, but that's more to do with the general level of challenge you found in the game regardless of the EoC update.

I guess my point is that by virtue of the fact anyone has time to type when fighting a monster kind of indicates to me the monster didn't need all that much attention in the first place, and thus the old "click & go" mechanic that still exists is still a viable option with the Action Bar minimised and regular chat enabled.

Does that make a little more sense? <3

Mod Drebin

21-Nov-2012 18:15:35

Dappie69

Dappie69

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@Mod Drebin

I'm actually enjoying EoC more then I initially anticipated but I do have some critiques and I'd like to hear your view on these.

1) Monster weakness, I feel, is taken to the extreme in this update. Killing monsters in any other way than the assigned weakness they have really alters your exp/h. Killing black demons for example with anything other then ranged is nearly impossible. I think players should have the freedom to choose whatever style they want. I'm not saying totally reverse the whole thing, but make it less extreme. For example, black demons are weak to bolts, make bolts do 110% damage, ranged 100%, any other form of magic or melee 90% damage. Still a noticable difference, but not so extreme anymore.

2) Combat level. In general I'm not a nostalgic person, but in this case I am. Being level 138 didnt only show how strong you were in game, it also showed how much time you invested in your character. Being able to get to max combat level just by training 2 skills just seems silly to me.

These are just my 2 critiques on the current system, would love to hear your opinion on them. Overall, not unhappy with eoc at all, but I like to see some things changed.

21-Nov-2012 18:22:13

King Kromo

King Kromo

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I agree, this runescape veteran is also leaving along with my 14 cousins and friends, we have decided that we have grudged through every new thing in Runescape since runescape classic we have lasted through every update and remained loyal to Runescape but this is to much we can't bear to watch Runescapae destroy itself anymore. I loved Runescape and when this Beta came out, man my game life just got destroyed... I couldn't play it any longer so I went on YouTube and decided to look at some "classis" Runescape vids, it made me so emotional and so many other players along with me. The only people that are going to thank you Jagex are the parents.. You know why? Those harcore rs players, those rs vets, those classic gamers are all going to leave Runescape not completely for the love of Runescape we will still check in once in a while but all those vids you see about addiction? Haha just see if you are going to find a kid addicted to Runescape now with this beta out. Im not saying bring Runescape back to its classis version, I understand how many problems that would bring, no more Dungeoneering skill, everyone with the maxed cape will me ****** yeah I understand but..... At least get rid of this Beta , leave some part of Runescape untouched. NO BETA, I am sure you are all aware of the people that are so sorely dissapointed in this descion of beta. I understand classic Runescape may never be restored but at least give us something to remember of it. NO BETA. I write this note as a request on behalf of all those fallen players who gave up hope, and those who still believe this game hasn't died yet. -King Kromo

21-Nov-2012 18:23:13

HannaBananaa

HannaBananaa

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@Jeppiel - I have to say.. what you said were my 2 main concerns with the EoC

I have started to really like the game since the update.. but mainly your first point is the reason why I have been put off training my combat skills..
So yeah.. your idea about making the weaknesses less extreme is a really good idea ^^

21-Nov-2012 18:27:25 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2012 18:35:56 by HannaBananaa

Ian Peregrin

Ian Peregrin

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Mod Drebin: Indeed, such conversations have become pointless, which is exactly my point. (Not just in my view, as the low player count shows.)

Earlier this year, I had to learn that I couldn't take any Jagex announcements, promises or explanations at face value any more. A major problem here was a credit card safety issue which Jagex indeed did solve later, after for weeks falsely claiming it did not exist in the first place. I could write a long list here of other, less important "economic uses of truth", but that one actually nailed it.

After all the deliberate misleading in connection with the introduction and expansion of microtransactions, I've lost trust in Jagex' promises, "polls" and announcements.

Yes, that's a nice dilemma: Even if you honestly hadn't got any plans to further extend microtransactions and sell 'abilities' - why should we trust your assurances this time, when we couldn't the last times?

(Funny how the newest SoF combat XP sale event doesn't seem to make it to the front page... yes, I'm sure, it's just a coincidence.)

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This is a massive update that changes the game massively, as criticized above, and the changes are not just "optional" - though you explicitly deny that. (Risk assessment, as in : loss per crash, was my original example.)

If you want to win trust back, be at least honest and straightforward about that.

21-Nov-2012 18:54:56 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2012 19:00:54 by Ian Peregrin

SirScroat

SirScroat

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Honestly, it's been quite a bit of fun **Ming in EoC. The action bar really used to be distracting though mapping abilities to keys does lessen that a bit. Mage is a lot more useful and interesting than it ever was, which is really nice. I can't say I like every aspect (those skilling popups are really intrusive) but so far it's an improvement imo.

21-Nov-2012 18:56:19

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