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Espionage724
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Are people missing the point? You can spam up a RWT Discord URL for multiple hours and not have any moderation action taken. And players going out of their way to report such behavior get ignored for multiple hours as if the reports aren't even received.

This is not an issue on other subscription-based MMORPGs. The heck is there even to defend here? I'm fine with Pmods not trawling the forum and sitting in PC waiting to moderate and I realize that's not reasonable to even expect that. I don't expect volunteers with an unpaid status to do this, even if I have a suspicion that at least one Pmod saw my postings and actively chose to do nothing.

I'm not fine with a company I paid a large lump of money to allowing this behavior to go unchecked for 4 hours. Or rather, I'd be somewhat understanding of that if I didn't go out of my way to report this player multiple times within those 4 hours . I made the work easy; there should have been a blinking light-board with all those reports on the bot or myself for potentially "abusing" the report system. How the heck are there no systems in-place for this in a MMO? Or maybe there are and Jagex just doesn't care.

Never-mind there's endless easy solutions to have prevented this in the 10 years OSRS has existed, and never-mind that multiple subscription increases still don't see at least one of these solutions implemented. I've already decided to end my subscription and don't plan on renewing it or buying bonds as surely someone at Jagex could have even stepped in and at least tried to do damage control offer some kind of excuse for this or tell me to deal with it, be quiet, and give me some membership days for my waste of effort reporting that bot.

As little of an effect it might have, I'll use any reasonable opportunity to tell others not to subscribe to this game. Jagex is just lucky I'm not some big YT or Reddit influencer and that this is confined to a barely-visible forum section :p

25-Jul-2023 00:51:59 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2023 01:45:59 by Espionage724

Tenebri
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Espionage724 said :
Are people missing the point? You can spam up a RWT Discord URL for multiple hours and not have any moderation action taken.


no you cant its literally in the rules to not advertise like that.

just because you see people do it doesnt mean its allowed

is it annoying, yes

is it allowed, no.

this has been said through out this thread


what you are expecting in speed in getting rid of them, is just unrealistic. as its been said over aqnd over in this thread.

they are not easy to get rid of. and im not wanting to go into that debate with you again. im just having to state that fact again,
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25-Jul-2023 08:26:10 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2023 08:32:06 by Tenebri

Tenebri
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Espionage724 said :


I'm not the Gingerbread man either and my neighbor isn't Santa Claus. How exactly is that relevant? :p

I'm not even sure the person was using job in that context. If I see someone doing yard work, I might say nice job. I'm not thinking if that's what they do for a job, and another person nearby certainly isn't going to correct me and say "ackchyually that's not their job they're just doing it".

Ok so Pmods aren't explicitly hired for a job. I mean they're selected for a role that comes with certain responsibilities and they get to accept or decline the position, and presumably Jagex isn't handing out Pmod positions for Pmods to not be doing anything, but ok Pmod is not explicitly a job. But a Pmod could have just as-easily saw a page of rants on a forum of an active spammer and decided to take the


and pmods are not obliged to do anything.

as i was saying....
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Espionage724
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Tenebri said :

what you are expecting in speed in getting rid of them, is just unrealistic. as its been said over aqnd over in this thread.


Yeah it's been said. What I didn't hear is why is it unrealistic? I guess it's unrealistic if the company doesn't care.

I've hosted game, web, and forum servers for over 15 years; I know how to do basic moderation and take action on abuse reports in a far quicker manual manner than 4 hours . There's no excuse for Jagex's actions and response-times outside of not caring as far as I can see. $11 btw.

Tenebri said :

and pmods are not obliged to do anything.

as i was saying....


That's fair, just like my complaints that those players shouldn't be a Pmod and Jagex shouldn't be handing out the status for no reason then. If a Pmod isn't going to moderate when they're aware of someone clearly breaking rules, they shouldn't be a Pmod by my expectations. I'm not calling out specific Pmods nor do I know if any were really present while that was happening, but if there was they know who they are.

Pmods are not my main concern; it's Jagex. The company I paid money to.

Tenebri said :

no you cant its literally in the rules to not advertise like that.

just because you see people do it doesnt mean its allowed

is it annoying, yes

is it allowed, no.

this has been said through out this thread



You seem to like word-play, but you must have missed where I said "can". Just like I can fly in a car above the speed limit. And just like any other broken rule or law, I can have action taken against me :p I didn't use the word "allowed".

Tenebri said :

they are not easy to get rid of. and im not wanting to go into that debate with you again. im just having to state that fact again,

You didn't state a fact. You're stating an opinion they aren't easy to rid.

26-Jul-2023 13:41:20

Espionage724
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Espionage724 said :
And just like any other broken rule or law, I can have action taken against me :p I didn't use the word "allowed".


I better catch this one too :p The one instance where I used the word "allow" in the full quoted post, I am not talking about players. I'm talking about Jagex who did allow the bot to continue for hours uninterrupted.

26-Jul-2023 13:44:26

SlR
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Ignore them if they're not being constructive. (please don't remove this, Tren).

I've tested the chat-filter a few more times and found .gg gets a pass pretty easily.
- I think they need to sort out the basics first, the chat filter lets too many things through.

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Tenebri
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Espionage724 said :
Tenebri said :

what you are expecting in speed in getting rid of them, is just unrealistic. as its been said over aqnd over in this thread.


Yeah it's been said. What I didn't hear is why is it unrealistic? I guess it's unrealistic if the company doesn't care.


as we have said

these are the hardest bots to deal with. its all just chat, the harsher the filters / auto mutes, the more legit players will get punished for nothing.
there is a huge balance here.

Espionage724 said :

and pmods are not obliged to do anything.


That's fair, just like my complaints that those players shouldn't be a Pmod and Jagex shouldn't be handing out the status for no reason then. If a Pmod isn't going to moderate when they're aware of someone clearly breaking rules, they shouldn't be a Pmod by my expectations. I'm not calling out specific Pmods nor do I know if any were really present while that was happening, but if there was they know who they are.

Pmods are not my main concern; it's Jagex. The company I paid money to.][/quote]

why should there pmod be removed? they are following there guidelines.
again they are not handing out pmod for nothing.... i dont know how you got to this.
they got pmod for many different reasons. being a pmod is not about handing mutes.

Espionage724 said :


Pmods are not my main concern; it's Jagex. The company I paid money to.



then why did you bring them up?

clearly you have thoughts about them. (which im trying to tell you is wrong im sorry it is wrong) im trying to let you know this, but you seem to just want to argue it. even after giving you information on it.
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26-Jul-2023 20:32:35

Tenebri
Jan Member 2015

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Espionage724 said :


You seem to like word-play, but you must have missed where I said "can". Just like I can fly in a car above the speed limit. And just like any other broken rule or law, I can have action taken against me :p I didn't use the word "allowed".


im dyslexic, i dont word play, im very blunt in my wording what i say is what i mean.

yes action is taken against these people. as i have already posted in this thread

here ill post that quote again for you :)
Tenebri said :


Tenebri said :




im sure these quotes will be useful in the future


not quite got to the limit yet i see after 10million bans in 2 years


i asked you how you would tackle the issue, your suggestion was "ban them" they are doing that already and you can see it is not working.



Tenebri said :

they are not easy to get rid of. and im not wanting to go into that debate with you again. im just having to state that fact again,


no this is not an opinion. this is fact. with all the reasons given in this thread not just by me but everyone else.
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26-Jul-2023 20:32:53

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