RuneScape Forum Archive | Enough excuses

Apr

2011

Jaekob Caed

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2_Tron said :
Jaekob Caed said :
... I'm not blaming the developer Jmods, I'm blaming Jagex as a company, its board of directors, its executives and the Jmods in charge of the financial side of the game... You are forgetting one thing.

These same people ... 'its board of directors' ... might be the very same people who gave Andrew Gower in the very first beginning the opportunity to get financial back-up (and other means) to have started with 'creating an online game'.
They also gave Andrew Gower the opportunity to sell his shares, getting paid and to achieve newer goals for the future.

They're not. I mean, MAYBE one or two of them but the overwhelming majority are new people who are only interested in milking the player.

Draco Burnz said :
Jaekob Caed said :

???

Havent Jagex always been trying to please someone as they are a company after all?

So they pleasing this Carlyle Group isnt anything new.

The goal of ANY business should be to PLEASE THE CUSTOMER. Obviously, appeasing investors is necessary to an extent but NOT if it means you have to screw over the customer. ~

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14-Apr-2022 22:30:57

Dec

2021

Mel 624

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That's the bad thing about capitalism. It makes things too dependent on investors to keep afloat and just generally encourages anti-consumer practices to increase profits. We lose out on a lot of creative works and passion projects purely because it's not seen as profitable enough to get made/circulated. Likewise, profit driven models and stuff like stocks and shares tend to benefit investors at the expense of customers. It's especially an issue with the gaming industry at the moment. How to block a forum user

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15-Apr-2022 00:31:15

Apr

2011

Jaekob Caed

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Mel 624 said :
That's the bad thing about capitalism. It makes things too dependent on investors to keep afloat and just generally encourages anti-consumer practices to increase profits. We lose out on a lot of creative works and passion projects purely because it's not seen as profitable enough to get made/circulated. Likewise, profit driven models and stuff like stocks and shares tend to benefit investors at the expense of customers. It's especially an issue with the gaming industry at the moment.

I call that "hypercapitalism", personally. At its core, the system is beautiful because it allows everyone the opportunity to make their goals come true. It's still dog-eat-dog but it at least enables virtually everyone to have the ability to either choose a job or start their own business.

The problem, as you pointed out, is how reliant it tends to be on investors especially once a business progresses beyond the realm of small business. Big business is certainly necessary for a modern economy but small business is where it's at and I consider small business to be the best position for a games studio to be in since it's entirely up to the people who started the business how things get run.

Neither is perfect, but yeah, that's how I wish Jagex was still. Oh, but to have Andrew Gower and MMG come in and buy a controlling interest together; that'd be so awesome but it's a complete pipe dream lol ~

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15-Apr-2022 04:17:08

Oct

2023

Bruce Waayne

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Jagex hasnt given a shit about us since they released EOC against the majority of peoples wishes, then they made the game pay2win which pissed more ppl off, and now we have two versions of the same game so they just divide up the already incredibly small playerbase.

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25-Apr-2022 01:34:23

Apr

2011

Jaekob Caed

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Bruce Waayne said :
Jagex hasnt given a shit about us since they released EOC against the majority of peoples wishes, then they made the game pay2win which pissed more ppl off, and now we have two versions of the same game so they just divide up the already incredibly small playerbase.

I don't agree with the idea that EoC was against the majority. There were a significant number of people that were against it but I never have (and still don't) believed that it was against the majority. I also think Jagex displayed quite a bit of care between EoC and through 2017 or so. After that, which would coincide with the ownership changes, things have just gone majorly downhill.

Also, the playerbase is not incredibly small. Maybe compared to battle royales or MOBAs but for an MMO, RS has one of the largest active playerbases. ~

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25-Apr-2022 03:14:09 - Last edited on 25-Apr-2022 03:14:39 by Jaekob Caed

Mar

2007

XSlay4DeathX

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If i was given the choice to be able to pay jagex what i think they are worth per month, bias aside on saving money but atm i'm locked at 5$, back then we got way more, no MTX, so worth 1.99$ to me now a days.....

Would you pay full price for a broken car? no....you get it cheaper, depending on how broken even free.

I used to value jagex very highly, but i know everything on how a business can increase profits the cheap way, great ideas are costly, flawless updates are costly, so much cheaper to just snap this together ASAP to release.

Could say, i am the owner of the deck of choices one can make at any point, that points to true values of goals and motives on why they picked that card vs the other one. This deck of cards isn't RNG based, i will gladly show all the cards 1 by 1. They would still choice the wrong one for the wrong reasons.

I am watching everyone, on which cards they choose.

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Apr

2011

Jaekob Caed

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XSlay4DeathX said :
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It's not so much of the value that's the problem for me now. It's the fact that RS has always been one of the most affordable MMOs to play and Jagex specifically stated that the introduction of MTX was to increase the game's budget without having to raise the membership. They outright lied about that because they raised it once since MTX were introduced. Then, it was the atrocity that is Yak Track: "to curb out of control TH promos", yet we still get regular TH promos that are irritating AND now we have Crap Track on top of it... to say nothing of how they also lied about their "DailyScape reduction" plans since Crap Track only increases DailyScape and it does so in an exponential and predatory manner.

All of that was followed by the introduction of the Jagex launcher, a "more convenient™ and more secure™ way to play our games", meanwhile the fine print tells us that they will force everyone to use this launcher and potentially even remove the game from Steam in the process.

Then, the coup de grâce: "Due to inflation, rising development costs & (insert obligatory pandemic excuse), we have to raise the cost of EVERYTHING. But look, see? Isn't Premier Club a better deal now? Oh, and don't forget, the next Yak Track launches next week alongside Rainbow's End 6.0!"

Jagex really has gone bonkers. While I DO like what they showed us on the year's roadmap, it's not enough. They're going to have a long, hard road to regain me as a customer and an even longer, harder road before I'll be kind and forgiving toward their business antics. ~

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10-Jun-2022 06:25:23

Wolfblue42

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Looks at bond prices on the wiki 54m lol no thanks.
Doubtful people will play in short bursts at that outrageous price.

Going by the updates they've been churning out a lot of quests lately. Around the time I stopped playing was 2019ish. They had some bad content droughts that year or the year before.

Ever since the beach promo first came out been like never ending mtx promos. Least they had some new skill and quests to show for all the cash they racked up but damn.

14-Aug-2022 03:12:19

Apr

2011

Jaekob Caed

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Bumping this thread for old times' sake, especially since Jagex has somehow managed to get WORSE since I posted it.

RIP to the RSOF and a big, fat screw you to Jagex. ~

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