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Jaekob Caed
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...Seriously, whether it's the idea of removing RS from Steam and forcing us to use your garbage launcher under the excuse of "security & convenience"
Oh I absolutely agree with their stance of security.
Firstly most people logging in through Steam don't take security seriously. Out of the other 3rd-party providers (Google, FB, Apple), they're significantly harder on account security and suspicious behavior.
People aren't losing access to Google accounts too-willfully; that's Gmail and YouTube. People aren't losing access to the largest social network, even more-so with Meta accounts and IG connections. And good luck even trying to lose access to an Apple account. But Steam? CS2 had a XSS exploit allowing account hijacks through no fault of the user; a game totally unrelated to RS. People lose accounts all the time with silly phishes with marketplace and item/card trading. Can't forget about the dozens of bulk-achievement unlocking apps too of varying origin.
The average Steam user is all too happy to weaken their account security, and Jagex can't control that. Even Blizzard was smart with still requiring their Battle.net log-ins for their games on Steam. Hell I'd like to think my opsec is pretty good and Steam Guard was annoying enough that I had to full-disable it for not sending me emails in a timely manner. I trust my email and single-use password length to make that a non-issue for account security though
And personally I find the Steam community a cesspit and not a place to discuss RS positively. I'd be fully in-agreement with removing it just for that but that would mean losing easy Proton/Linux support which I think is more important in the bigger picture.
...Seriously, whether it's the idea of removing RS from Steam and forcing us to use your garbage launcher under the excuse of "security & convenience"
Oh I absolutely agree with their stance of security.
Firstly most people logging in through Steam don't take security seriously. Out of the other 3rd-party providers (Google, FB, Apple), they're significantly harder on account security and suspicious behavior.
People aren't losing access to Google accounts too-willfully; that's Gmail and YouTube. People aren't losing access to the largest social network, even more-so with Meta accounts and IG connections. And good luck even trying to lose access to an Apple account. But Steam? CS2 had a XSS exploit allowing account hijacks through no fault of the user; a game totally unrelated to RS. People lose accounts all the time with silly phishes with marketplace and item/card trading. Can't forget about the dozens of bulk-achievement unlocking apps too of varying origin.
The average Steam user is all too happy to weaken their account security, and Jagex can't control that. Even Blizzard was smart with still requiring their Battle.net log-ins for their games on Steam. Hell I'd like to think my opsec is pretty good and Steam Guard was annoying enough that I had to full-disable it for not sending me emails in a timely manner. I trust my email and single-use password length to make that a non-issue for account security though
And personally I find the Steam community a cesspit and not a place to discuss RS positively. I'd be fully in-agreement with removing it just for that but that would mean losing easy Proton/Linux support which I think is more important in the bigger picture.
20-Jan-2024 00:23:08 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2024 00:36:00 by Espionage724
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