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Jaekob Caed
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Gotta love how this thread is being proven right! Jagex releases a copy-pasted holiday event (and not even a GOOD one at that) for the first time in this game's history...

But they're raising the cost of the game because of inflation and development costs, right? *rolls eyes*

Jagex is dead and this game's future is in jeopardy.
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11-Apr-2022 22:47:40

Ladyolake
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Its mentioned on here that it would be ok to up the price if the goods/services were better.

Guys i hate to break it to you but litterly everything goes up in price. Sure sometimes it
goes down but always back up.

I would like low prices too but im also a reasonable person and see that Jagex has expenses
and the owners like profit.

Its not fair to blame the Jmods.. they work for a company, im sure they dont go around saying lets up the prices.

Its not even a large increase for the monthly membership. I know in todays economy every
cent counts. At some point if you are unhappy just dont spend real world money on services
you are unhappy with.

The most important thing is this.. Jagex is not a Charity or nonprofit company.
The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

12-Apr-2022 11:12:15

Draco Burnz
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Jaekob Caed said :


Jagex is dead and this game's future is in jeopardy.


You do know everyones been saying this forever right?



Like its been said, prices change all the time and they need to update to match the current market, so that all jagex is doing.
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12-Apr-2022 11:38:11 - Last edited on 12-Apr-2022 12:24:51 by Draco Burnz

Jaekob Caed
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Ladyolake said :
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I'm not blaming the developer Jmods, I'm blaming Jagex as a company, its board of directors, its executives and the Jmods in charge of the financial side of the game.

The price increase may not be massive for mems but the fact that they increased the price on everything else is unreasonable and is making a LOT (and I mean a LOT) of people strongly consider no longer paying for mems. I've played the game for nearly two decades and given Jagex thousands over the years because I love this game and felt like I was valued as a customer.

That ended with this BS. Jagex may not be a charity but that does not excuse them to treat their customers to bullcrap like this and it makes it even worse that they're making every excuse to try to convince customers that they actually care about us, when it's clear that they definitely do not.

Draco Burnz said :
You do know everyones been saying this forever right?

Like its been said, prices change all the time and they need to update to match the current market, so that all jagex is doing.


I'm well aware but this is the first time since the removal of FT/the Wilderness where the concern for the game is legitimate. We are in serious trouble and the fact that you can't see that is very telling.

"All Jagex is doing" is screwing over their loyal customers and using excuses to cover it up. Period.
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13-Apr-2022 03:21:31

Draco Burnz
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Jaekob Caed said :


"All Jagex is doing" is screwing over their loyal customers and using excuses to cover it up. Period.


No thats just how you view this situation as i very much doubt its their intention.

Just because you dont like the price increase doesnt mean theres anything sinister going on.
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13-Apr-2022 12:06:26 - Last edited on 13-Apr-2022 12:06:34 by Draco Burnz

Mel 624
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Inflation isn't really a good reason to claim there's no reason for people to be upset. Inflation in itself and the way people are affected by it tends to be worth discussing. IRL there have been plenty of times where financial burdens were offset onto other people so that wealthy and well off people could keep making money at other people's expense. Tips in the US are an example of this in how some jobs are severely underpaid and have to rely on the charity of customers willing to pay extra over having an actually livable wage.

It's important to have discussions about potentially anti-consumer practices and whether or not prices are fair proportionate to the expected income of consumers, the quality of the product and if the people making the product are getting a reasonable portion of that.

Feedback on customer satisfaction regarding those things helps ensure the people playing the game are happy with what they're getting and companies are held accountable when their practices get questionable or negatively affect the quality of the player's experience.
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14-Apr-2022 00:24:42

Jaekob Caed
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Draco Burnz said :
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Incorrect. I just learned Jagex is planning to go public in the near future. That means all of this recent change is a load of BS, it's just Jagex trying to appeal to potential investors at the cost of their loyal players' wallets.

The dumb thing is that doing this kind of crap only satisfies the sort of investors that will be OBJECTIVELY bad for the game and the company. For investors who actually care, it shows that there won't be enough customer loyalty left to make an investment worthwhile. When I first heard the news, I thought I might buy some shares myself (depending on how they go about the IPO) but nah, the more I thought about it, the more I realize that Carlyle's BS not only proves my initial point but it also means that this game and company are pretty well screwed either way unless an investor or investors with morals buys a controlling interest in the company. Sure, they may keep things afloat, but we'll most likely see the game become more of a cash cow. You think this is bad? It won't be the end of the greed.

Mel 624 said :
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I am of the belief that inflation, in and of itself, is most often only an excuse. I don't believe it has near the amount of impact that people claim it does. Corpos like Carlyle use it as a means of HOPING their customers won't see through the garbage and will continue to hand over more and more cash. In other words, it's a nickel-and-diming strategy, nothing more than that.
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14-Apr-2022 02:19:11

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Jaekob Caed said :
... I'm not blaming the developer Jmods, I'm blaming Jagex as a company, its board of directors, its executives and the Jmods in charge of the financial side of the game...
You are forgetting one thing.

These same people ... 'its board of directors' ... might be the very same people who gave Andrew Gower in the very first beginning the opportunity to get financial back-up (and other means) to have started with 'creating an online game'.
They also gave Andrew Gower the opportunity to sell his shares, getting paid and to achieve newer goals for the future.

14-Apr-2022 08:58:21

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