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Telcis

Telcis

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Rob said :
Telcis said :
Rob said :

My biggest issue with the closer was more on a moral level.
Then why do you choose to conduct yourself and your argument in an immoral way?

What you see as immoral actions, I and many others who know a bit more than you, see and know it as fact and truth.

But its not fact or truth. Its speculation, opinion and slander.
There is a huge difference, especially if you want to hold someone else accountable morally or ethically you need to act within those bounds too.

24-Oct-2018 01:59:14

Miu

Miu

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Telcis said :
Miu said :

so quit your lying.
Its not lies, its an opinion based off speculation. Jagex would have looked into the options before taking action because that is common business practice.

We can retrospectively see their choices and speculate why they went that way.

Miu said :

worth a lot more than anything else
Mui please look up the words "subjective" and "objective". What you are posting here is a subjective opinion. If we were to treat it objectively. Then it would be by the revenue that has been brought in, which has steadily increased since RSC. So you would be incorrect.

I thought you already established the precedent of calling subjective opinions "lying."
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26-Oct-2018 21:00:14

Telcis

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Miu said :

I thought you already established the precedent of calling subjective opinions "lying."
That was you lol.
In case you forgot:
Miu said :
quit your lying.

Its ok for people to have opinions, its not ok for people to treat their opinions as fact. You need evidence and actual fact.

For example:
Its ok for Rob to think that Jagex are greedy.
Its not ok for Rob to accuse Jagex of moral injustice from greed, because he has no actual evidence.

27-Oct-2018 10:46:35

Miu

Miu

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Telcis said :
Miu said :

I thought you already established the precedent of calling subjective opinions "lying."
That was you lol.
In case you forgot: Telcis said :
Quite disappointing, I would have thought you would do everything possible for the RSC community.
Instead you are deliberately tanking it from false representation. Telcis said :
While I cant speak for Draco's motive. I do know that OP is not being honest with us. Telcis said :
I do believe that Rob is going the wrong way about arguing for RSC to the point where he is making it less likely. He could do it without the lies, slander and propaganda.
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27-Oct-2018 23:49:22

Telcis

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Oh ok, so you don't understand why I said those.
Let me explain further, Rob is making claims and accusations without proof. And stating they are fact.
Which is simply not true, nor is it ethical or moral good practice.

If he can prove his claims, that's perfectly fine. But he hasn't even attempted to. which means that his accusations that he claims as fact become slander.
Why would Jagex even contemplate helping out the RSC community, if they allow people like Rob to act in this way without anyone questioning it?

28-Oct-2018 01:59:11

Miu

Miu

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Telcis said :
Oh ok, so you don't understand why I said those.
Let me explain further, Rob is making claims and accusations without proof. And stating they are fact.
Which is simply not true, nor is it ethical or moral good practice.

If he can prove his claims, that's perfectly fine. But he hasn't even attempted to. which means that his accusations that he claims as fact become slander.
Why would Jagex even contemplate helping out the RSC community, if they allow people like Rob to act in this way without anyone questioning it?

And you keep claiming subjective opinions are claims and accusations. You keep trying to call Rob's ethics into question when Rob's ethics aren't the subject of the thread. Is he upset? a little biased? Of course, 15 years down the drain. If he you have issues with specific claims, then point them out instead of just repeatedly attacking his character in generalized terms.

I understand exactly why you said that. To argue in bad faith and derail the thread. Good work.
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28-Oct-2018 22:01:49

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