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THE RUNESCAPE WIKI NOTES

Since there are members of the RSOF community who do not use social media or those that may have followed the link that Mod Shauny posted to the RSW forum page & may have missed these posts because of the differences in page formatting between a RSW forum thread & ours, (ours is better), that were discussing the Wikian title I thought that these notes may be of interest. The notes are organized in kind of a timeline fashion.

JMOD TIDBIT

RSOF: 05 Dec 2016 13:52:03 Mod Shauny Jagex Moderator - Patch Notes|5/12 Qfc 15-16-394-65857386

OP:

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Mod Shauny Jagex Moderator, Patch Notes|5/12 Qfc 15-16-394-65857386 05-Dec-2016 14:07:49

Quoting [EDIT] said: (who quotes post 1.2) & said: 'Favoritism? Wiki is neither the first nor most consistent Runescape fansite. There are plenty of other incredible and devoted fansites, so why do you choose to play favorites and only acknowledge Wiki? Better question: Why are you allowing Wiki staff to decide who gets to have the in-game title? This opens the door to all sorts of nepotism, since they could very easily just pick their buddies to receive the title and no one else. Equality, Jagex, equality.'

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This is just a small step in acknowledging sites that make the effort to provide the content they do.

I wouldn't exactly say favoritism personally when in the past we had our own Wiki which went directly against RSW.

All the uses of the title being given out are being tracked by us for this exact reason, also in regards to "picking just their buddies" they've been formulating a process on how to best distribute the title [1], the idea is that it'll drive more people to contribute.

If you have any more points I'll happily take the time to answer what I can, but this doesn't just stop with the Wiki.

Links to: [1] The Wikian Yew Grove Forum page on RSW

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JMOD TIDBIT

DATE: 06 Dec 2016

Today's update - 'the Wikian' title submitted 18 hours ago by Mod Shauny

OP:

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Q: Seems to be unfair to all those that worked for even longer prior to the wiki taking off and a large number of other fansites. So will people from those fansites get recognised or is this just some favouritism and "luck" that they happen to be the big site at this point in time? Edit: Just to add, I'm not saying the guys who work on the wiki don't deserve this, just that it seems strange that they're the only ones that get it (especially as the wiki hasn't been relevant for anywhere near 10 years).

A: Mod Shauny 11 points 18 hours ago: It doesn't just stop at the Wiki, eventually we can begin to distribute the other fansites as well, I talked about it a bit on RSOF, but the long term plan isn't just to make it a "one site only" thing.

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Q: Wikian sounds so dumb. Knowledge Keeper or something to that effect would have been much cooler.

A: Mod Shauny[S] 9 points 18 hours ago: Fair, it was something we discussed with Wiki and that was the plan.

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Comment: Hi guys, The wiki is currently deciding what we deem 'worthy' enough to hand out the title to players. At the current moment, the title is handed out by the wiki itself (and not Jagex), but we are still discussing how exactly we should be handing out the title. [1]

Links to: [1] The Wikian Yew Grove Forum page

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Note: golly gee whiz, that sure makes me feel a whole lot better...

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RUNESCAPE WIKI

A Official Jagex Approved Fansite

DATE: 05 Dec 2016

[1] The Wikian Yew Grove Forum page

NOTE: Thread opens on 25 Nov 2016 discussing the upcoming title & criterion to be used in awarding it. Discussion appears to be ongoing. However, according to the following post made by Gaz Lloyd aka 7:^], Admin, he has written a draft of the nononation procedure to receive the RuneScape: The Wikian. [1a]

RSW TWITTER

THE WIKIAN TITLE THREAD DISCUSSION HIGHLIGHTS

MOD SHAUNY

November 25, 2016 - A: Shaunypwns (talk)

: Hey guys, So first of all I believe there was a title planned from a meeting a while ago when you had a talk with Jagex, but this was something I feel so honoured to do for you wonderful people.

It's not much in the terms of things, but consider this a thank you from us for everything you guys have done for 10+ years. <3

Hope you enjoy

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REMOVAL OF TITLE

November 30, 2016 - Comment: Couple more things:

Can we at least ask Shauny about having the ability to remove the title in case of a disaster/emergency later down the line? Shauny said that he would be maintaining some kindof list of who has the title unlocked. Could we get access to that to keep a record of who has the title? Or make a list ourselves?

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November 30, 2016 - Comment: I agree with asking Shauny about title removal as a possibility - some people just don't deserve a reward or even a simple thank you ("reward" meaning a participation thing, not a competition thing), either because they aren't active or they're active in vandalism and such. If they got the title somehow, it could reflect badly on us, I'd think.

December 3, 2016 - A: Shaunypwns (talk)

: We can do title removals but I'd much rather not, like ever. And if it ever becomes a common thing then I'd have a personal problem with it. I raised the point of the title after consulting with others who agreed with the points raised by myself.

- EDIT: Should mention also that I do have a post needed to post on it. The reaction could become very back and forth but I'm more than happy to argue the points for it.

- Considering Gaz is the person who decides where the title goes it should be fine for you guys to monitor that yourselves, I'll have my own list for tracking, hope this answers some of it!

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MORE INFORMATION

05 Dec 2016 - by Gaz Lloyd aka 7:^], Admin: 'Two Mondays ago (14 Nov), Shauny chatted to me via a few places (discord, in-game, and twitter) about getting something for us in-game, a la the Wiki Cap in Team Fortress 2. He managed to get a title - more visible and doesn't clash with fashionscape as much

The title is given out by a specific user (surprise! Its me) using a special item (a book I think) which is only obtainable via a Jagex mod adding it to your account manually. You click the book, enter the user's name into the prompt, confirm the name you typed in (a yes/no prompt), and they get the title (they don't need to accept anything). The recipient has to be online at the time.

Shauny last told me that the expected release date was the update of 5 December.'

GAZ LLOYD, ADIM, INITIAL LIST OF 113 RSW TO RECEIVE TITLE

05 Dec 2016 - Gaz Lloyd aka 7:^], Admin: 'This thread is increasingly becoming a clusterf***. So, in the interest of actually being able to give out the title to people, I have written up a draft of RuneScape:The Wikian. I based it on Cam's guidelines and expanded them to be a bit more inclusive - some people are already mad about it being exclusive to the wiki, let's not make it worse by being d***s about giving it out. (On the other hand, many seem to be accepting, at least.)

I have also compiled an initial list of 113 users that I believe should receive the title, to be discussed as a batch - but that should really be a separate thread because this is way too long. (I won't link it here to keep this on-topic, but I'm sure you can find it.)'

TITLE TO BE AWARDED TO RSW CLAN COMMUNITY

December 5, 2016 - Comment: Question - A long way up, Degen mentioned the idea of those active in the in-game community being eligible for it. My question then is, what about those who are active in-game, in-clan, but don't have many edits?

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APPLICATION OF TITLE

December 6, 2016 - Gaz Lloyd 7:^], Admin: I made the guidelines specific about in-game names because I believed I had to type in the user's name to give them the title, but this isn't the case - I use the book on the recipient, like a clan invite. So it doesn't really matter as much, but it is useful for verification.

TITLES TO BE AWARDED TO RSW AFFILIATES [2]

December 6, 2016 - Comment - Thank you Gaz for your hard work!

I did have one general comment though, someone on Twitter who contributes at the Brazilian-Portuguese RS wiki, asked if they (and by extension the other language RS wiki's) are also elligible for title?

December 6, 2016 - by Gaz Lloyd aka 7:^], Admin: For everyone who didn't see, I responded with "As for non-English RSWs, I do intend to support them with the title. I didn't mention it on the thread because it is already gigantic with just our stuff. Once the thread is closed, you should just use the normal process (or let me know and I can nominate you). You may want to set up your own process, that's up to you - there's obviously a level of difficulty introduced due to the language barrier for the English community to look over your edits properly."

"Included in this is the OSRS Wiki, RSC Wiki, and other sister wikis (see RuneScape:Links#Sister_wikis) (should the users also play RS3). I shall consider other wikis not mentioned on the page, like the Chronicle Wiki on Gamepedia. (Side note: it would've been nice if the guy claiming to be an admin on a bunch of RS-related wikis didn't rant on the patch notes thread, and instead came to talk to us like you [the pt-br wiki admin] did.)"
I hope this is generally agreeable.

December 6, 2016 - Comment: I think it should just be for the RuneScape, 2007Scape, and RSC Wikis, including the active foreign language versions. I think the other wikis are more or less irrelevant.

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THREAD CLOSED

7 Dec 2016 - Closed - The proposed guidelines as set out in RuneScape:The Wikian will be used per the unanimous support for them. A couple of edge cases to work out at a later date and in another thread:

How to accommodate sister and inter-language wikis in requests.
Whether to grandfather in groups of users.

I would ask that we hold off initial nominations until Gaz's preliminary list has been exhausted to avoid the nominations page becoming almost as long as this thread is now and it becoming almost impossible to navigate.

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[1a] THE WIKIAN

[1a] RuneScape: The Wikian - [Name] the Wikian is an in-game title awarded to editors of the RuneScape Wiki.

DATE: 05 Dec 2016

DATE: 08 Dec 2016 - [A] Added to original thread dated 05 Dec 2016
DATE: 08 Dec 2016 - [R] Removed from original thread dated 05 Dec 2016

THREAD BEGINS

NOTE: 'This project page is currently under construction. The information contained within should not be considered fully accurate and/or complete.'

NOTE: 'This section or article is incomplete. Reason: guidelines and process subject to change. You can discuss this issue on the talk page or edit this page to improve it.' [NOTE: No talk page available 05 Dec 2016]

GUIDELINES {subject to change via thread}

Users should have helped out the wiki in some way, for example

[A] * many edits
*high-quality or high-profile edits
*project involvement
*community interaction
*generally helping out

These are not hard requirements, so if you think a user should be granted the title, nominate them with your reasoning. The title is not meant to be exclusive.

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* Nominees, nominators, and commenters should have a wiki account of at least 2 weeks old

* Currently blocked users are disqualified from being nominated (including being blocked during the process)

This does not include staff-applied global blocks, as they are hard to track and verify

* Users may not nominate themselves

* Nominations should:

(1.) include a description of why the user should be awarded the title
(2.) use the usual support/oppose/etc comments with optional reasoning
(3.) run for one week

* There is no quota on:

(1.) The number of wiki users that can receive the title
(2.) The number of in-game accounts each user can have the title applied to (but be reasonable as it is a manual process)

[A] (3.) Contributors of the Old School RuneScape Wiki, the RuneScape Classic Wiki, and active non-English RuneScape Wikis are also welcome to be nominated here (assuming they also play RuneScape itself)

[R] * Title removals should be done extremely sparingly

These rules were discussed in Forum:The Wikian. [1]

Nominating: {possibly also subject to change} To nominate a user, please follow these steps:

1. Let the user know you wish to nominate them - they may decline, in which case stop here. While it is optional to ask before nominating them, it is better to do so beforehand.

2. Add the request to the Nominations section of this page using the following format:

===[[User:NOMINEE|]]===

Describe why the nominee should be granted the title. Sign with ~~~~

Account name(s): list the nominee's in-game account(s)

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'''Support''' as nominator. ~~~~

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3. If not asked beforehand, the nominee should make their declination known now

4. The nominee should fill in their in-game account name(s) in the marked section, or check them if already filled in. Make sure that exact spelling of the name(s) is clear:

* Take care with similar-looking characters, e.g. I and l (uppercase i, lowercase L), O and 0 (uppercase o, zero), etc. When in doubt, use all lowercase.
* If the name contains more than once space in a row, use underscores _ for readability.

The request is now ready for general commentary.

Completing

After a week, an administrator should determine consensus and close the nomination. The discussion should be archived in the current (or a new) archive.

Successful nominations should have the user (and accounts) added to RuneScape:The Wikian/Users, and the current owner of the Wikian book (Gaz Lloyd) notified - remember that both users (the Wikian book user and the successful nominee) have to meet up in-game at the same time to grant the title.

[END [1a] RuneScape:The Wikian]

[A] Batch nomination

After much discussion on discord we decided that this is probably the better way to do it, to avoid later issues. I apologise if anyone here was expecting an individual nomination statement - it's just not feasible to do so for so many people.

I have split it into sections like the table so you can edit each group easily. I would advise doing so to help with any edit conflicts that may occur.

NOTE : List of nominees & 'support' for nomination process takes place on the balance of this thread.

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[2]

WHO ARE THE RSW AFFILIATES

All of these RSW affiliates according to Gaz Lloyd aka 7:^], Admin of RSW will be accorded the Wikian title in addition to the RSW community, which is the only wiki officially recognized by Jagex.

RSW

The Runescape Wiki affiliates which include:

Affiliates

Grand Exchange Central
Grand Exchange Watch
RSBandB
Runescape Reader's Digest
Runetime
Runewise
RuneScape Classic Wiki
Old School RuneScape Wiki

Sister wikis

DarkScape Wiki
Chronicle: RuneScape Legends Wiki
RuneScape Clans Wiki
RuneScape Players Wiki
RuneScape Fan Fiction Wiki
RuneScape Answers Wiki
War of Legends Wiki
FunOrb Wiki
Ace of Spades Wiki

Other languages

Deutsch
Español
Français
Nederlands
Norsk (Bokmål)
Polski
Português
Suomi

Per Gaz Lloyd aka 7:^], Admin he is also considering other wikis not mentioned on the page, like the Chronicle Wiki on Gamepedia.

In addition it also appears that the following will also be accorded the Wikian title:

RSW Clan members who are not even active on the RSW as contributors or editors (or have very low edit numbers).

That a title holder that has more than one account, those accounts can receive the title as well.

Commentary

It appears that all of these folks will be getting an in game appreciation title before any of the long time Jagex Official & Recognized fansites will. Sad.

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