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Wilf
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Windsofnight said :
:o

You mean like, erm, lost track of what was happening on this thread because you have been so busy posting in the HLF that you haven't had an opportunity to visit the LLF in awhile? :D

Of what is happening :p what is all this stuff you're posting?

Hardly any hlf posts by me only on the threads about the forums for the most part

Been active in game though so not spending as much time on here

07-Dec-2016 19:13:34

Windsofnight
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Lol, you made me double check if I was posting in English since it is only one of the languages I write in.

To try & answer your question & provide some clarity, all of the stuff I am posting relates to the opening post. I did ask some very pointed questions & made some very pointed statements in the opening post.

After all, I did ask about the type of feedback that attracted the Jmods attention & why has posting official information to social media first become the norm? I also asked why aren't all of our Jmods posting to RSOF (since it appeared to me that they are actively posting to social media all the time). I had also commented on the use of the active user counter being used as a reason for not posting to RSOF.

On post 10.10 Mod Balance says '...The internet is changing, and so are communities. Part of our community philosophy is to spend our time on platforms (like the forums, like Reddit, like Twitter) proportionally based on the size of the community using them. If people are naturally moving away from using forums then there is less reason to work on them.' Btw, that response was found on Reddit & the OP of that Reddit thread was a thread written on RSOF. Ironic.

I would have to ask what type of gauge is being used to judge the size of a forum based community? Surely it is not the active user counter at the top of this forum is it? It has been implied that it was in the past. I would also have to question a philosophy that time spent is 'proportionally based on size' since the company he is working for, its Official Forum is a forum based platform rather than being a 'page' on a social media networking/news platform or part of a open-source software platform.

I have wrote a bit about the marginalization of feedback, contributions & support that is given on forum based fansites on post 10.6 & since RSOF falls into this category those comments would also apply.
WHERE IS MY INGAME RSOF TITLE?!

07-Dec-2016 22:42:50

Windsofnight
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To be fair, rather than to make assumptions that try to find answers to those questions I thought it best to present some data that ties to those questions being asked in the OP. What better way to present that data than to do it with JMOD TIDBITS.

I do realize that the use of the 24 hour comparison JMOD TIDBITS can be a bit confusing & may throw the reader off because those tidbits do address a variaty of subjects, (subjects btw, that are being discussed right here on RSOF too) & the majority of those tidbits are from Reddit so those Jmod replies are not found here. I get it, but I am limiting those types of JMOD TIDBITS to the 24 hour comparison feature.

So far the two random 24 hour comparisons (9.5-10, 10.1-3, 11.1-7) that I have done are beginning to show a pattern through the use of data to find an answer to the question if RSOF is indeed being ignored & all of the support & the answering of RS community question & concerns is being done on Reddit or Twitter rather than posting here. You would hope that this would not be true wouldn't you?

The random Weekend Watch (12.1-3) so far, (mind you I have only done one) does show that there is a reduction in Jmod posts being made to Reddit on the week-end. With just the one sampling though it tends to dispel the notion that Jmods are only posting to Reddit on their off time.

Lol, I guess I could of blogged about all of this on social media instead of RSOF.
WHERE IS MY INGAME RSOF TITLE?!

07-Dec-2016 22:43:42

Windsofnight
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The RuneScape Wiki

A Official Jagex Approved Fansite


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

Commentary

After reviewing the threads discussing the RSW title on RSW, all I can say is what a ugly can of worms Mod Shauny has opened.



It appears that the fansites that have been around much longer than RSW have gotten a big slap in the face with having to wait their turn for a 'title'. This tends to make it appear that their value to Jagex has been marginalized. But to top it off, Mod Shauny has allowed the RSW community to *decided* who gets the title.

Really?

Let's take a peek at who they have decided should receive the RSW ingame title...

First, it is my understanding that *ONLY* the RuneScape Wiki is a Official Jagex Fansite.

Because Jagex has let the RSW community decided who receives the title, that title is now being awarded to RSW affiliates *who* are not Official Jagex Fansites or even Jagex Recognized Fansites.

These affiliates are neither official nor recognized by Jagex *but* they are receiving an ingame title *before* the communities of the Official Jagex & Recognized Fansites that, it should go without saying, have been around much longer than RSW.

Because Jagex has let the RSW community decided who receives the title, that title also appears to be given out to RSW Clan members who are *not* even active on the RSW as contributors or editors at all too.

Because Jagex has let the RSW community decided who receives the title, it also appears that if a title holder has more than one account, those accounts can receive the title as well.


*face palm*



(Notes to follow either later today or tomorrow).
WHERE IS MY INGAME RSOF TITLE?!

08-Dec-2016 16:13:41

Windsofnight
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@Stoat King, Thank you for your kind words. I am glad you are enjoying the thread.

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@Wilf, I hope my reply helped understanding the content of this thread better. Borrowing a line from Sharkespeare's Hamlet, but putting a present day twist to it, 'there is a method to my madness'... :D

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@FiFi La Frou, Thank you so much for highlighting that thread.
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09-Dec-2016 03:35:43

Windsofnight
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RSOF

NOTE: Rants Forum: You must log in to the forums to read this thread.


RSOF users are losers. Qfc 285-286-802-65858355 by Nexus0rigin


Commentary

Thread highlights once again that information that the RS community would expect to find on Jagexs Official Forums isn't being posted here first & if it is posted here at all, because a lot of times it isn't, the information gives the appearance of being an 'after thought'. Sad.

Constructive Criticism - Understanding Why The RSOF Forum Community May Be A Bit Disappointed

I am glad that Mod Kalaya did take the time to at least copy & past Mod Saylns Reddit post on page 40 of a chat thread, (XMas Chat, Qfc 420-421-0-65852149, 40.2). However, I am curious, just like the OP of the aforementioned thread is as to why a few minutes wasn't taken to create a sticky thread in the Solomons Store forum so that everyone could see this information?

Tbh, this isn't the first time that information that has been posted on social media has given the appearance of being buried after the fact within an existing random thread after someone has posted about not finding the information here on RSOF.

On a personal note, one example of this was when I posted a thread titled #IAMWHOLE featuring Jagex & RS, Qfc 14-15-771-65842072. After my thread was up, it appears that the thread, the BTS | Ironman Mode Birthday, Qfc 294-295-361-65842100 was updated after it had been up for awhile to include not only the #I Am Whole | Mental Health Awareness video but the Developer Q&A - RuneScape 2017 Survey Results too, which btw, were both released on Reddit the day before too.

That was kinda of a face palm moment since I did wait a whole day to see if anything was going to be posted by Jagex on their involvement with the #IAMWHOLE campaign on RSOF before I posted my thread. Lo & behold after my thread was up, poof, like magic, the #IAMWHOLE video appears on the BTS Ironman Mode Birthday thread!
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09-Dec-2016 04:19:08

Windsofnight
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OTHER EXAMPLES

It is pretty easy to provide other examples too, this thread does contain plenty of examples of information that is posted on social media that doesn't find its way to RSOF & information that is posted to social media first & then posted to RSOF, giving the appearance of being an 'after thought' when it finally finds it way to RSOF.

Solution

There are several easy solutions to curb the appearance of neglect, after all I am sure no one wants RSOF to suffer the same fate as one of the Official Jagex Fansites that I have written about on post 12.10 that has the appearance of being totally abandoned by its administrators.

I have made a few suggestions within the content of this thread. One of those suggestions can be found on 10.9. I will make another one here.

Information Control

It is becoming more obvious that it appears that maybe the CM team has lost control of the information flow.

As far as I can tell according to the Official Jagex Twitter List (7.4,5,6,7,8,9) there is one social media Jmod. But according to the two 24 hour posting comparisons that have been done (9.5-10, 10.1-3, 11.1-7) there appears to be a heck of a lot more social media Jmods than just one. I mean, you expect Mod JD to be all over social media but it sure was surprising to see that so many of the Jmods are utilizing Reddit & Twitter in lieu of using the Official Forums to post information.

If you look at the posting patterns on Reddit (& Twitter) in comparison to the posting profiles on RSOF it is pretty obvious to see that they fit the title of being a social media Jmod too because it is beginning to appear that some of them are not giving RSOF its due diligence by posting here at all.

It is a bit ironic that the social media Jmod, (Mod JD), who you expect to be posting on social media more than to RSOF actually posts more on RSOF than some of these other social media Jmods do.

Maybe its time for Mod Kalaya to get EMPish in the office...
WHERE IS MY INGAME RSOF TITLE?!

09-Dec-2016 04:23:22

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