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Imagineering

Imagineering

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I think it would be pretty cool if we could add a like/dislike option to forum threads and posts in order to see how popular/unpopular a specific idea is.

I apologize if this is the wrong area to suggest this, but this encompasses both RS3 and OSRS but is not directly part of either game.

EDIT ONE - There are now two new modifications to this proposal:

1) A stipulation that any Like/Dislike will need to be substantiated by a comment/argument.

2) While 'Disliking' is an option, only 'Likes' will be shown on the forums. If total
Likes > total Dislikes, Likes shown = total Likes - total Dislikes. If total Likes <= total
Dislikes, Likes shown = 0.

17-Jul-2021 23:23:24 - Last edited on 23-Jul-2021 01:26:55 by Imagineering

Kopaka
Dec Member 2023

Kopaka

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I agree but as many have pointed out, there's already an official Runescape Reddit where that system exists.

There are many who for one reason or another don't want a popularity contest here on RSOF.

My reason for agreeing with the suggestion is that it's quite common someone will post and literally just quote someone else and say 'I agree'. Like, that's not a contribution. A thumbs up on the original post would be so preferable to what essentially is spam.

17-Jul-2021 23:39:52

Tenebri
Jan Member 2015

Tenebri

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probably better suited for the website and forums section of the forums

but i think there is already a thread on this there.

personally i dont like the idea, for one there are many people that use many alts that troll the forums, they will just downvote people they dislike no matter what.

it adds a credibility to a person, if its low there credibility is seen as lesser than someone with higher likes. (if it tallies up on the persons profile)

unless you are meaning just the Original Post for an idea. then i can see it kind of being useful. but the forums are here for discussion not just seeing if people agree with each other.
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18-Jul-2021 00:04:31 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2021 00:07:58 by Tenebri

A  Cole
Nov Member 2003

A  Cole

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Places that use systems like this often turn out to be popularity contest cesspools. Oft times, meaningful discussions get dismissed by the system because other posts with far more "likes" are given preferential treatment.

On the face of it, one may look at something with more "likes" than another, and believe that it's clearly more popular, therefore that's the route that Jagex should go down. However, as Kopaka said, a "like" adds nothing meaningful whatsoever. This means there are many risks with adding such a feature to these forums.

Take the Suggestions forums as an example.

Thread A is suggesting that everyone should get 200m for free every week for logging in.

Thread B is suggesting some much needed updates to a particular minigame.

Thread A may be very popular amongst players who don't like working for their money, or don't understand how the economy would react to such an update. This could receive a very high number of upvotes, even though it would be a terrible update for all concerned in reality.

Thread B would probably not see many votes because the subject is rather niche and not frequented by many players, i.e the interest in it will be low. This does not mean the contents are bad though, as the content may be what that minigame needs to increase its popularity.

And now we come to the problem: If Jagex releases Thread B's suggestion, people will complain that something far more popular hasn't been released. If Jagex decide to go with the popular vote, they risk damaging the game. Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good.

So for this reason alone, I don't see any need for like/dislike buttons.

There are other disadvantages too. Dislike buttons can lead to mental negativity which should be avoided in my opinion. This is why you don't see such buttons on the likes of FB.

Another is that it's very easy to create accounts en masse to sway votes.

I don't see how a vote system can have a positive outcome.


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18-Jul-2021 00:17:14

Kopaka
Dec Member 2023

Kopaka

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@Tenebri

I'm not automatically inclined to agree with you that most people think 'more likes equals more credible'.

Systems like Reddit and Stack Exchange will not only display upvotes but will reorganize the order you see responses to put the most popular response at the top. This is where things become problematic, because if people only read the first three responses then they will only see the three most popular responses and those might not necessarily be the best ones.

This to me is the bigger issue than 'perceived credibility', which seems like a stretch to me.

@A Cole

Sounds like you're not the biggest fan of democracy lol.

'It doesn't matter if everyone wants something. People don't know what's best for them. You can't just give them what they ask for. Give them what they truly NEED.'

There's certainly shards of truth in what you're saying but to disregard what 'most' people want based on some standard of what is 'more important' seems like shaky territory.

18-Jul-2021 04:41:45

Jeremy Cheng
Aug Member 2013

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Only if it's only likes, dislikes will make the lurker ignore a thread if it's been mass downvoted by haters who have a personal grudge against that specific poster. I see wow forums removed their dislikes so dislike really belong on reddit only as reddit posts only stay up for no more than 3 days when they get super upvoted and about a day if average upvotes. Perhaps the more likes a thread has, the more fancy the background of the thread can get. Sort of like the snow that appears in certain jmod threads.

18-Jul-2021 06:39:14 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2021 06:42:34 by Jeremy Cheng

Imagineering

Imagineering

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The concern of using alts to fake upvote posts for popularity would not be a problem introduced by this proposal. People can already use alts to provide fake support to threads via supportive comments and provide false traction to their thread(s).

While I agree this is a problem, this is not a problem of this proposal, but rather a failure to track/punish people who use multiple accounts to pad their threads.

Also, regarding the point that threads with more likes will gain traction because of perceived popularity, this also currently happens but with the number of total comments used as a judge of popularity rather than likes/dislikes.

Likes/dislikes already exist in a way, but rather than being simple features to click, are instead displayed in the form of comments, typically either stating 'support' or 'no support'. The addition of an official like/dislike system would just make this easier to communicate.

18-Jul-2021 07:17:30 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2021 07:21:38 by Imagineering

Loki
Sep Member 2011

Loki

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No. Please never introduce this to the RSOF.

People on Reddit only ever upvote memes or people's achievements, or if it's something popular for PvM, and always seem to downvote meaningful suggestions that might not be as popular/used by the playerbase. Solely because of that, it's why Reddit is far less superior, and will never be as good as the RSOF.


Also, as has already been mentioned, people can just use their alts to upvote their own threads, or mass downvote other forumer threads. I think there's far more important updates or features the forums could get, before or instead of an upvote/downvote system.
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