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Southeaster
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Matchgirl42 said :
Southeaster said :
Matchgirl... I remember you from six years ago.

Nice to see that you haven't changed one bit.

J-Mods will never side with trolls. They side with whoever followed the forum rules. If your posts were hidden, or if your thread was locked because of your own posts , then is the issue here really about forum trolls, or is it about you unable to admit to your own misdeeds?

Right back at you, Southeaster. You're on my in-game ignore list for a very good reason.
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20-Nov-2020 12:21:07

UrekMazino
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Deltaslug said :
While I support the idea, functionally it's not too useful due to the ease someone can just create an alt and continue.
That's like saying ignore function is useless in game because alts can bet created to keep bothering you. This is weak reasoning.

The better argument to make would be because a forum is a public discussion space where anyone can voice their opinions. Having a block or ignore function would just create an echo chamber, which is the exact opposite of what a forum should be. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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20-Nov-2020 19:37:49

Matchgirl42
Jul Member 2011

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Draco Burnz said :
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So you're admitting that Jagex is content with trolls running rampant in the forums/want that to happen?


Plz dont misquote what i said.

I never once said anything of the sort just that they own the forums and they arent your threads.

You literally said, and I quote, "if they want this to happen they can as they have every right to."

Also, if Jagex didn't want us to think that they're our threads ("our" being the creators of said threads), then the mods wouldn't use language like "their thread." (taken right from the code of conduct, btw) My motto is to be nice if I can, but also to not suffer trolls.

21-Nov-2020 11:53:10

Matchgirl42
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Deltaslug said :
While I support the idea, functionally it's not too useful due to the ease someone can just create an alt and continue.

Yeah, then the alt would just get blocked, too. People do it all the time on twitter to try to circumvent blocking and keep the trolling going. But it becomes pretty obvious really quickly and then the alt just gets blocked too. Plus using alts to circumvent blocks could be added as a violation of the code of conduct, I've seen that on other websites/message boards as well.

It's not really creating an echo chamber like ppl keep accusing. Having a user block function based on thread ownership/authorship, whatever you want to label it, would just block the target from interacting with that person's threads/posts, not the entire forums. (Unless, of course, they insist on trolling/aggravating everyone and then everyone blocks them, but still, that won't stop them from creating their own threads and otherwise using the forums, including interacting with posts made by mods.)

Most users are reasonable and would only block if people are routinely/repeatedly being trolls/dicks. As for "unreasonable" people - if they're going to block "unreasonably," whatever definition people want to apply there, why on earth would a person still want to interact with them, aside from "one-upping" them/deliberately aggravating them, which goes back to message board power jockeying/the most basic definition of trolling? My motto is to be nice if I can, but also to not suffer trolls.

21-Nov-2020 12:03:42

Matchgirl42
Jul Member 2011

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Southeaster said :
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Safety first, Southeaster.
Always.
Lol Nah it's fine lol. She suddenly disappeared from the argument after a couple of days so I also broke off.

Never expected to see her name again after so many years.

So you view forum activity as "arguments" and not "discussions?"

Interesting, and reveals a lot, as does this entire post. I mean, I already knew it, part of why you're on my in-game ignore list, but this is revealing to others. My motto is to be nice if I can, but also to not suffer trolls.

21-Nov-2020 12:06:13 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2020 13:30:01 by Matchgirl42

Ownage Omg

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Matchgirl42 said :
It's not really creating an echo chamber like ppl keep accusing. Having a user block function based on thread ownership/authorship, whatever you want to label it, would just block the target from interacting with that person's threads/posts, not the entire forums. But the whole point of a forum thread is to create discussion regardless of whether or not you like the outcome. As of right now if someone is "trolling" you can just report them and have the posts hidden or simply ignore the posts. Yes *simply ignore* the posts. This also means other people have the chance to have their own discussions even if you personally do not wish to interact with said people.
Matchgirl42 said :
So you view forum activity as "arguments" and not "discussions?" I mean, it could go either way. It really just depends on the topic at hand and how the discussion is being handled.
I personally try not to cause an argument with my posts but more of a healthy debate.
Granted, a few people do not like me for being as blunt as I am with my posts. Having a block button would not only kill the little forum activity we have, but turn the forums into an echo chamber for the people who are blocking others for the wrong reasons IE disagreements as opposed to actual harassment.
Matchgirl42 said :
Yeah, except I already tried that, and the forum mods and J-mod sided with the trolls. They don't "side with trolls" if your posts got hidden then clearly you did something wrong. Sounds to me like you're just upset that you couldn't get your own way.
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22-Nov-2020 13:19:00 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2020 13:25:21 by Ownage Omg

Matchgirl42
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Ownage Omg said :
But the whole point of a forum thread is to create discussion regardless of whether or not you like the outcome. As of right now if someone is "trolling" you can just report them and have the posts hidden or simply ignore the posts. Yes *simply ignore* the posts. This also means other people have the chance to have their own discussions even if you personally do not wish to interact with said people.

If it was truly just "simple disagreement" like ppl keep trying to paint it as we wouldn't be asking for a block function.

Other ppl would still have the chance to have their own discussions if a block function was in place. Again, it wouldn't keep them from using the entire forums. Just keep them from interacting with the threads/posts of the user(s) who blocked them.

Ownage Omg said :
Granted, a few people do not like me for being as blunt as I am with my posts. Having a block button would not only kill the little forum activity we have, but turn the forums into an echo chamber for the people who are blocking others for the wrong reasons IE disagreements as opposed to actual harassment.

I think there might be a difference of opinion here regarding what is healthy discussion vs what is trolling/harassment, and a misguided attempt to conflate those two categories. And perhaps some thought should be given to the possibility (probability) that the trolls, and Jagex refusing to do anything about said trolls/siding with them, are what is chasing people away from the forums. Which a block function would go a long way towards fixing and making the forums a better place, btw.

Honestly, I can see why people wouldn't want to use the forums when trolls descend en masse on posts, destroy threads, and the moderation is so terrible. (Also see: the supposition that this is the exact goal of the trolls, to control the forums and chase everyone else away/message board power jockeying.) My motto is to be nice if I can, but also to not suffer trolls.

22-Nov-2020 19:00:28

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