RuneScape Forum Archive | I Need A User Block On Forums

Mrs Ana

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Mod Lyon said :
It isn't something I would advocate for if we had unlimited time. I would expect forum users to be mature, take advantage of the (improved, at this point) moderation tools available to them (report to a JMod etc.) and move on with their days.

However, I'm not the person making those decisions about what's most important in our team so they may view things differently. Thanks for sharing your opinions and thoughts on this matter.

That's exactly how I deal with it and I have explained the reasons why. It's only a game and the person on the other side is unknown to me. I cannot let a random person get to me. If it gets dangerous, then I'd get an F-Mod or J-Mod, if available and if applicable, involved.

16-Sep-2020 16:49:10

Mrs Ana

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Tenebri said :
is just loads of threads that wont make sense, especially if people dont quote who they are responding to. This is something I always do when responding or taking part in a conversation. First, I do not want to get lost myself and second, I do not want others to get lost. It keeps the conversation flowing normally.

16-Sep-2020 16:57:37

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2017

Corder

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I agree with you Stoat and Lyon. One can never know how it will play out.

I'd be supportive of an ignore function that hides messages and prompts the user to click 'Show' as with Discord block function. As long as it doesn't conflict with the other user's posting rights anywhere in the forum, it might just work.

It definitely would look weird in places as you mentioned Stoat, let's just hope it won't be used all that much. I don't think it will, but that's for time to tell. If someone who's blocked tries to reply to a Game Content Suggestion, their reply would still be considered by the rest of the community and the game developers. This might have OP's arguments look odd when they're not reading the blocked messages.

A trial would be welcome I think, we just have to brainstorm.

(I also agree with you Ana and Tenebri, I will edit my reply as I get time.) Life is like a camera: Just focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives, and if things don't work out, take another shot !

16-Sep-2020 16:59:04 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2020 17:02:33 by Corder

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2015

Tenebri

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Mrs Ana said :
Tenebri said :
is just loads of threads that wont make sense, especially if people dont quote who they are responding to. This is something I always do when responding or taking part in a conversation. First, I do not want to get lost myself and second, I do not want others to get lost. It keeps the conversation flowing normally.

indeed and if people have each other blocked

would the "quote" be hidden or the whole post even if the person posting it isnt on anyones ignore. but the person they are quoting is on ignore

it can cause for some weird situations and missing information
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16-Sep-2020 17:08:13

Mrs Ana

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Tenebri said :
indeed and if people have each other blocked

would the "quote" be hidden or the whole post even if the person posting it isnt on anyones ignore. but the person they are quoting is on ignore

it can cause for some weird situations and missing information True, but if you are ignoring someone, why would you need to quote or see their post if the main point of ignoring a person is not being able to see or interact with them?

16-Sep-2020 17:10:38 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2020 17:11:17 by Mrs Ana

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2008

Team Skull

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And what's stopping people from using it as a means to create an echo chamber?

"You're disagreeing with my opinion! BLOCKED AS YOU'RE TROLLING ME!!!!!"

I only hope you can see how this can turn problematic very, very quickly. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

16-Sep-2020 17:23:15

Mrs Ana

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Team Skull said :
And what's stopping people from using it as a means to create an echo chamber?

"You're disagreeing with my opinion! BLOCKED AS YOU'RE TROLLING ME!!!!!"

I only hope you can see how this can turn problematic very, very quickly. Yea, this definitely could be a problem but if it were to be implemented, then it must be in the way that if I were to block you, for example, your posts would be invisible to me only and not to others. It's unfair to simply remove you completely from a conversation due to the fact that I do not agree with your thoughts/opinions.

If I were to ignore or block someone, then those posts/threads would become unavailable to me only.

16-Sep-2020 17:25:11

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2008

Team Skull

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Mrs Ana said :
Team Skull said :
And what's stopping people from using it as a means to create an echo chamber?

"You're disagreeing with my opinion! BLOCKED AS YOU'RE TROLLING ME!!!!!"

I only hope you can see how this can turn problematic very, very quickly. Yea, this definitely could be a problem but if it were to be implemented, then it must be in the way that if I were to block you, for example, your posts would be invisible to me only and not to others. It's unfair to simply remove you completely from a conversation due to the fact that I do not agree with your thoughts/opinions.

If I were to ignore or block someone, then those posts/threads would become unavailable to me only.

Which brings me to my next question: How do you deal with misuse of the Block function like in the aforementioned example?

Because there obviously will be if it is, indeed, implemented.. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

16-Sep-2020 17:27:51

Stoat King

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Team Skull said :
And what's stopping people from using it as a means to create an echo chamber?
It is this part that interests me, albeit tangentially.
Lets take it a step further and say that if I have you blocked, then not only are your posts and any quotes of you invisible, but your username is replaced with stars.

It potentially means that everyone viewing a thread is, in effect, seeing a different thread.

Given that we already lose a number of things by using a text-only medium (sarcasm is much more difficult to detect, for instance), a whole bunch of misinterpretation and misunderstandings are possible even when viewing the same thread, let alone when we are all seeing subtly different ones under the same banner.

Even without taking the systemic flaws in the medium into account, the same words can inevitably mean different things to different people.

The potential for confusion is enormous. But maybe thats not how it would go.
I feel quite strongly that dev time would be better spent on just about anything else.
I am curious what others think of how this would actually work though.

16-Sep-2020 17:49:55 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2020 17:51:11 by Stoat King

Mrs Ana

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Team Skull said :
Which brings me to my next question: How do you deal with misuse of the Block function like in the aforementioned example?

Because there obviously will be if it is, indeed, implemented.. Yea, I'm fully aware of the potential mayhem that this may cause. I do not know, but what if this were to be implemented, then Jagex can add a rule where it's not appropriate to let other people know that you have blocked them? Similar to the unwritten rule that you should not let others know that you have reported them -- either in-game or on the Forums -- to avoid retaliation and further rule-breaking. Do you believe something like this would properly function?

Yea, I know it's virtually impossible to forbid someone from typing, "Hey! You are a troll and I have blocked you!", but throughout my years here, I have yet to see a post or thread where someone else says, "You have been reported to Forum Help" or something related to that. Maybe adding that extra "rule" saying that it is forbidden to publicly post that you have blocked someone else to avoid unnecessary comments/situations.

What do you think?

16-Sep-2020 18:15:44