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Dong U Dead

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What I don't understand is if a moderator writes a post in a thread, another moderator can't action in the thread prior to that moderators post or move the thread. I don't get that.
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25-Jul-2020 02:25:38

Tuffty
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Dong U Dead said :
What I don't understand is if a moderator writes a post in a thread, another moderator can't action in the thread prior to that moderators post or move the thread. I don't get that.
It's called Toe stepping.

There are ways around it that sadly I can't tell you about. Tis a secret. ;)

It often takes a few hours to a few days to sort as said F-Mods may not be around. Once they are around it's then addressed and dealt with. It's rare any action is taken but it does get taken now and then without asking the F-Mod first. Very rare though.

It's been that way for ever really.

Also this maybe a secret too. If a F-Mod just posts as a normal person then another F-Mod comes along to moderate then thats fine as the first 1 or more have not been doing any moderating. It's often left to a F-Mod to action any and all reported issues on said thread. Thats called F-Mod courtesy or delegating. Been that way for ever too.

Hope that all helps why some action is taken and some action gets taken later on.

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25-Jul-2020 12:37:36

Dong U Dead

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Even if a Fmod just posts in a thread not acknowledging or seeing the post in question - it should be actioned.

I have had many posts where a moderator has said they can't do anything because a moderator has posted in the thread - it is wrong, very wrong. People have gotten away with bad behaviour because of this and I feel on some occasions it's the forum moderators way of allowing the bad behaviour to be made without them being indicated, they have allowed certain situations, not nice situations to remain. Very sad and very wrong!
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25-Jul-2020 19:06:38

2_Tron

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@Dong U Dead, I respect your questions about moderation to get some understanding of what does happen in General but please refrain from making it a thread to complain about moderators because, apart from what happened yesterday, I do not wish to follow that road as explained in my first post in this thread.

2_Tron said :
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This problem, in General, is not a mistake nor an issue of Moderation


This might be something of Players themselves or Jagex ... or both of them.

25-Jul-2020 21:13:57

Dong U Dead

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2_Tron said :
@Dong U Dead, I respect your questions about moderation to get some understanding of what does happen in General but please refrain from making it a thread to complain about moderators because, apart from what happened yesterday, I do not wish to follow that road as explained in my first post in this thread.

2_Tron said :
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This problem, in General, is not a mistake nor an issue of Moderation


This might be something of Players themselves or Jagex ... or both of them.
If you want general cleaned up, this may mean moderators overriding other moderators...
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26-Jul-2020 04:03:31

2_Tron

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Dong U Dead said :
2_Tron said :
2_Tron said :
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This problem, in General, is not a mistake nor an issue of Moderation
This might be something of Players themselves or Jagex ... or both of them.
If you want general cleaned up, this may mean moderators overriding other moderators... I am not asking for a clean-up, however, what I am asking for is players to reconsider and taking notice of the strap-line & specific rules and respect them as valuable information about what to do and what not to, in a forum, in this case, General.
Players misplace/-post threads and not moderators.
As a veteran, you do know where threads need to be placed and where not.

26-Jul-2020 09:45:11

Dong U Dead

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It's not a big issue, fmods sometimes move threads other times even though they are clearly not in the right forum even if reported are not removed, they are even less likely to be removed if a moderator has posted in it.

It's not just posts being posted in the wrong forum, it's the whole way the forums work. If it was fair to all, maybe things would flow better??

Also if the forums were busy as they were 10 years ago this would have been an issue, these days not so much. Other forums you can wait days for someone to comment, people don't want to wait, they want answers now, not next week, they want their problem sorted, they want to do that quest today, they want to get in-game and get issues sorted today, they want information today.

General is the forum, it's the place to be. Most of the forums on these forums could be closed, due to quietness, General can take on much more threads, a hell of a lot more. I feel close a lot of the subforums and use general, it will be a lot more fun and enjoyable and busy.
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26-Jul-2020 18:50:45

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There are times extra-ordinary bumping is needed to be done to deliberately push lock threads down towards page 2 faster. Though this time, there is not enough relevant active threads from page 2 to supply the first page of W&F. There is nothing special here, just a regular housekeeping stuff.

edit: 2_Tron, your succeeding posts were hidden due to verbal abuse. I was the one who did the bumping to make W&F more readable (in fact, the original post already hinted that), as I pushed many locked threads down. I told it to you here as a courtesy, so everyone here knows that housekeeping is regularly being done here in RSOF.

If you disagree with my action, use FMR. Artificial bumping of threads by a mod is a regular tool as part of our housekeeping task. It has nothing to do with your privacy as a forumer, as RSOF is a public forum. General is a faster forum compared to W&F section, hence more intervention is needed here in W&F than in General section. Once again, what happened was a regular housekeeping task, there is no controversy over it. Feel free to report to FMR if you disagree with it.

09-Aug-2020 12:19:25 - Last edited on 10-Aug-2020 20:19:19 by Maynne

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