RuneScape Forum Archive | A block function?

Apr

2012

Spearmint30

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Abby Taylor said :
Spearmint30 said :
Draco Burnz said :
So you currently can choose which posts to see as it been already stated. You're right! So then there's no reason to not add a feature that just removes the post from view, making ignoring it more convenient - seeing as it can be ignored anyway. Anybody that has a hardline stance against a BASIC block feature (as it exists ingame and doesn't prevent people from posting, only hiding)
Anybody against that is almost 100% against it because they know who they are and they know they will be blocked / Ignored. I certainly agree with you there - there's no real reason to not implement a feature like this.

If they're blocked, they're not going to know they're blocked. They're going to post - not knowing that you're not going to see it because you've ignored them. Everyone else will see it so, from your perspective, they haven't even posted and from their perspective - you're just choosing to ignore their posts which, as was mentioned by other users throughout this thread, can be done anyway soo yeah - no reason to not just have it be a thing for convenience.

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06-Jul-2021 02:34:08

Aliona G3n

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Spearmint30 said :
I certainly agree with you there - there's no real reason to not implement a feature like this.

If they're blocked, they're not going to know they're blocked. They're going to post - not knowing that you're not going to see it because you've ignored them. Everyone else will see it so, from your perspective, they haven't even posted and from their perspective - you're just choosing to ignore their posts which, as was mentioned by other users throughout this thread, can be done anyway soo yeah - no reason to not just have it be a thing for convenience.

The key word you used is convenience , and well put.

06-Jul-2021 02:36:17

Jul

2004

Ms Toxicity

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I appreciate that the conduct of some players does leave a lot to be desired and that it does have a negative impact on one's foruming experience.

The idea, proposed by Spearmint30, that a player can choose to ignore/block a person but the blocked player's ability to post is not affected, seems sound. However, I share the concerns posted by 2_Tron that the discussion in a thread may become disjointed, if other players respond to the blocked player's post. I also agree with the point made that it would also block the player, who utilised this feature, from the discussion.

Please remember that you can always use the Forum Help V2 sticky thread in the Community Home forum, if you need to raise concerns, about how others have posted in the forums.

With that being said, two posts that were accusing another player of misconduct in the forums have been removed. Please discuss the feature, rather than specific players.

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06-Jul-2021 06:40:34

Stoat King

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Ironic really. The comments on this very thread prove better than any theoretical discussion of the pros and cons of such a feature.

I still think it would be daft / futile in some ways, but the rampant idiocy displayed in this thread has changed my mind about the whole thing.

To hell with it - lets give it a go and see what happens!

Of course, this doesnt speak to the main problem with this idea - it will go at the bottom of a to-do list that currently resides in the garbage.

06-Jul-2021 08:18:43 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2021 08:19:16 by Stoat King

2_Tron

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Spearmint30 said :
Abby Taylor said :
Spearmint30 said :
Draco Burnz said :
So you currently can choose which posts to see as it been already stated. You're right! So then there's no reason to not add a feature that just removes the post from view, making ignoring it more convenient - seeing as it can be ignored anyway. Anybody that has a hardline stance against a BASIC block feature (as it exists ingame and doesn't prevent people from posting, only hiding)
Anybody against that is almost 100% against it because they know who they are and they know they will be blocked / Ignored. I certainly agree with you there - there's no real reason to not implement a feature like this.

If they're blocked, they're not going to know they're blocked. They're going to post - not knowing that you're not going to see it because you've ignored them. Everyone else will see it so, from your perspective, they haven't even posted and from their perspective - you're just choosing to ignore their posts which, as was mentioned by other users throughout this thread, can be done anyway soo yeah - no reason to not just have it be a thing for convenience. In '
RuneScape
' The RuneScape Community is already behaving much as 'non-existing' being 'distrustful' about each other ignoring any other individual even when they speak up, even when JMods are present in an event, attitudes are hostile and treacherous.

Soo ... wanna see it here implemented? I guess not.

And what about Jagex/JMods, how do they have to make up something out of your thread or that of others. They have to go knitting in the evening, knitting together all these shredded forms of feedback to make something out of it before they can read the full extend of a thread.

It doesn't make sense at all.

06-Jul-2021 09:58:07 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2021 10:13:15 by 2_Tron

Nov

2019

Abby Taylor

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@Ms Toxicity

"Please remember that you can always use the Forum Help V2 sticky thread in the Community Home forum, if you need to raise concerns, about how others have posted in the forums."

It specifically states there that using it to report players for annoying you does not count, and that misuse of that forum can get you in trouble.

This is why the trolls in the Runescape forums get away with it. They ruin the experiences of other users by constantly holding negative contrarian opinions to every idea and proposal made by them, and specifically target individuals with their ""criticism""

It is nearly impossible to objectively differentiate from a user who might have genuine disagreements with another user, and one who is "lawfully" being a troll. and so they will more often skate by under the radar and not be punished, or the user who they are trolling will end up having posts removed for trying to speak up against their own harassment........... ring any bells?

What doesn't need objective evidence, is a persons unwelcome feelings or sadness.
Someone else's behavior can make you feel sad even if they don't break the rules, and players need some form of relief.

"the conduct of some players does leave a lot to be desired and that it does have a negative impact on one's foruming experience."

You being an Fmod should know by now that this forum is a pretty insulated small community, used by a very particular type of people, who may have issues with social interaction (to put it nicely).
Runescape's by nature of it's very gameplay, is has some responsibility in attracting these types.

I don't feel it's reasonable to expect that all rule abiding users can get along with each other.

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06-Jul-2021 13:14:33

Nov

2019

Abby Taylor

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@2_Tron

"In 'RuneScape' The RuneScape Community is already behaving much as 'non-existing' being 'distrustful' about each other ignoring any other individual even when they speak up, even when JMods are present in an event, attitudes are hostile and treacherous.

Soo ... wanna see it here implemented? I guess not.

And what about Jagex/JMods, how do they have to make up something out of your thread or that of others. They have to go knitting in the evening, knitting together all these shredded forms of feedback to make something out of it before they can read the full extend of a thread.

It doesn't make sense at all."

I'm gonna be honest with you 2_Tron none of what you wrote here seems to remotely resemble a coherent thought.. and it even seems borderline off topic.

The only thing that I can understand is that you do not support a block feature, and you think that the Runescape community is "treacherous".. wouldn't that actually be a supporting argument for having a block feature?

No clue what you mean by "knitting together shredded forms of feedback"

A block feature isn't shredding or destroying anything.
If a player chooses not to respond to another user, or blocks them, then what functionally would be the difference to an outside party looking in?

-Imagine somebody posted in my thread and I chose not to respond to that person.
-Now imagine somebody I blocked posting in my thread, I don't see it and thus don't respond

if you are a Jmod reading my thread, then both of these would look identical from their perspective.

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06-Jul-2021 13:22:34

2_Tron

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Well English isn't my native language so you have to deal with it the way it goes, I do my best to make it sound as good as possible, so that's that.
In RuneScape there are many ways to close yourself from 'public chat' which makes it that The RuneScape Community becomes pretty much 'non-existent'.

@Abby Taylor, here's an example of being 'ignored/not responded to'. Proposal: remove FMR.
What if/when Jagex/JMods still decide to listen to the person/persons that are ignored/not responded to?

-Imagine somebody posted in my thread and I chose not to respond to that person.
-Now imagine somebody I blocked posting in my thread, I don't see it and thus don't respond

These are not identical, not even in the slightest parts they are identical.

06-Jul-2021 14:54:42

2_Tron

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OK Abby Taylor, out of my forum-experience-inventory.

I made a thread once, got some opposing views as well as supporting views. No big deal.
Then all of a sudden somebody opposes me and pretty much started to take over my thread, answering posts that were directed to me, etc. etc. etc.
Got to Forum Help at that time, no help, nothing got actioned/done.
Went to Forum Emergencies, got an answer from a JMod ...
I don't see a problem, nothing can be done
... end of story Jagex/JMods not going to help me out.
Got smacked pretty hard in the face, ain't it?

(this was in the golden era of The RuneScape Official Forums with loads of Forum Curators everywhere).

It are Jagex's Forums, they can do with them the way they want to, in good deliberation, they can decide who they wanna listen to and who not, we can only provide our feedback the best way possible and that's about it.

The prupose of '
The RuneScape Official Forums
' is to listen to each other and share feedback all together, without exceptions.

06-Jul-2021 15:28:54 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2021 15:40:20 by 2_Tron

Nov

2019

Abby Taylor

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@2_Tron

This post was a little better worded, and provided some argument I think I can respond to and provide a counter to.

I'm well aware that the Runescape community is insular and does not like to communicate with each other. This is the case for nearly all gaming communities, because people are competitive and do not like to interact with people that cause them problems.

People have to compete for resources such as slayer spots, and hop worlds to get better exp.
Being alone = better exp
This is toxic game design, and I've seen players have huge name calling fights over stuff like that. players get along, and have constructive engagement when they get along with each other and aren't forced to interact with people they dislike.

"What if/when Jagex/JMods still decide to listen to the person/persons that are ignored/not responded to?"

That is there business, it makes no difference to me. A block feature doesn't exist to silence peoples ability to give their opinions and feedback, it stops them from harassing and bothering people that don't like them.

If I block somebody, I don't care if they continue to give feedback to Jagex. As long as I don't have to see them.

"These are not identical, not even in the slightest parts they are identical."

You need to look up the definition of the word " Analogy"

I am comparing those 2 examples because the

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is the same.

"It are Jagex's Forums, they can do with them the way they want to"

I never once disputed or disagreed with this.
I've merely made suggestions for how Jagex can improve as I see it.

"The prupose of 'The RuneScape Official Forums' is to listen to each other and share feedback all together, without exceptions."

Going to disagree with this.
I'm not obligated to listen or care about bad Ideas.

I use the forums to make suggestions to improve the game.
A place to reach out to Jagex.

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06-Jul-2021 16:32:09