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Quael
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Ptolemy Dean said :
MegaMainAnt said :
But really, you don't see this kind of drama on other games because they don't have full blown POKs, the closest you get are Noble House RPs and that's just fine. But the whole I own this land, I am king this of that, seems to be a big cause of issues in what's left of the community.
And now we're left with, what, six different POKs with varying degrees of canonicity depending on who you ask? Enough is enough. We've gone through this cycle over and over again. Let them end I say.
Ptolemy Dean said :
After reading everything these past few days? Yes.

Honestly. Yes. I run a rp group that is in no way part of these POK system. No kingdom needed of dedication, just a simple questing and adventuring rp group. Rp when you want and when you can. Go into a Hiatus if you must. No real dedication to active role-play, but to just have fun. I have about over 50 members in that group, each one who had fun in it. A lot are in Hiatus now, but returned and did some quests, and no drama (we got our own roast channel for that.) Now compare this to a POK after what's been going on in world 42. After all the power-play, rule breaking, and self centered excuses.

Is my group better than a POK? I'd like to say yes. Some people won't agree. Some will, and I am okay with those type of feed backs. I kept suggesting that people strive away from POK style rp for years, I never supported one, but rped when asked (and if interested in the concept of the rp) But a lot of people have been interested in the idea of a kingdom style role-play. It's either because they love the interaction of war and invasion. Or maybe they are actually interested in just being guards and knights and stuff.

Over all POK has always been a bane to the community and a lot of people might agree with me on that now. If everyone can agree to let POK die out, 42 would be better.
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21-Jun-2019 09:27:07

Quael
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But the only way for it to die, is if everyone actually drops it and lets it go and leave it to the NPC. But i can imagine a few number of people not wanting "drop years worth of memories and hard work." I thought the same thing when I was running The Godless as the main focus in my clan, until we all agreed to make it into a quest style rp group. Change happens eventually, if done right (and not try to force it when you have no power for such) you can have people walking behind you trying to make this change also.

I added my fair share to it. Time to see who agrees, disagrees, call me a lier, or trash talk me.

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21-Jun-2019 09:33:23 - Last edited on 21-Jun-2019 09:38:24 by Quael

Nathmatics
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@Adventurer,

I wholehearted support your group since it seems to be one of the least conflictual groups in W42, as well as adopting a... model? Modus Operandi even, that actively makes sure that uncomfortable amounts of conflict are avoided and easily resolved if it ever comes about.

Even though I try to maintain a neutral stance on everything so I can remain objective throughout these tense times, I do have to agree on the notion that I believe The Quest Collective is, in most regards, better than most, if not all, POKs. mainly because of the reasons stated plus, as previously said, less conflict, and as a result, more enjoyable roleplays.

RiDaku said :


I've made the argument as to what's going on so many times. At this point all I can do is just post a comic that Merca sent me after taking one look at the forums.




This statement actually confirms something that I was thinking about privately and would actually like to talk about that with you. you know where to find me if you're interested in talking (Which is probably in-game).
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21-Jun-2019 12:18:57

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RiDaku said :


I've made the argument as to what's going on so many times. At this point all I can do is just post a comic that Merca sent me after taking one look at the forums.



Lol you could apply this to a lot of contexts.

Inclusion into a group always creates exclusion because it sets the categories and boundaries; if you don't have X quality, you're not in this group.

edit: removed irrelevant part about wider social issues All these sins disguised as blessings

21-Jun-2019 13:12:51 - Last edited on 21-Jun-2019 13:13:43 by Hazbollah

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There is a theme and style that come with PoK RP that a lot of people enjoy. I needn't go into detail, but I'll tell you it removing an entire genre of RP just because two or three individuals cannot handle the apparent "influence" it brings isn't fair to those that enjoy it.

This question wouldn't even need to be asked if people could get along. But it goes a lot deeper than that. I'm starting to think that the question is can the community come together to assess the actual issue at hand. PoKs are not that issue.
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21-Jun-2019 19:26:45

Quael
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Vekon said :
There is a theme and style that come with PoK RP that a lot of people enjoy. I needn't go into detail, but I'll tell you it removing an entire genre of RP just because two or three individuals cannot handle the apparent "influence" it brings isn't fair to those that enjoy it.

This question wouldn't even need to be asked if people could get along. But it goes a lot deeper than that. I'm starting to think that the question is can the community come together to assess the actual issue at hand. PoKs are not that issue.

If the community can come together and talk about the bigger issue, i am certain a good number will point at the POK/POC system. Hell, the main problem is their are certain people wanting to force things their way and attempt to blame others for it. Honestly I am trying to direct my rp group as an prime example of what can save the community from becoming a hazard zone for Veterans and new rpers. But when they see so much drama, of course they won't return.

At this moment, the drama is being caused by POK and POC. And it's getting worst by the second it might need to be removed from being a public canon from rs rp. But if new an old people are addressing that POK seems to be the issue, we might need to do something about it before it's to late.
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21-Jun-2019 22:41:30

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I'll just add that in general I've opposed the large pok systems, particularly the ones that span across multiple kingdoms. However I don't have any issue with player owned cities/towns. I think they become a problem when you have one rp group over large swaths of territory.

23-Jun-2019 03:33:55

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