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Dansplainer
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This is why this isn't an issue and it is why I strongly advocate that we end this redundant cycle of threads that always get nowhere. I have repeatedly gone against people from the DMD canon, when they made the decision to stir up drama here on the forums and warned them against trying to have a discussion like this on the forums. It's a waste of time when the solution is honestly that there isn't one, because there isn't a problem to solve and the only time there is one, in any case, it is because someone decided to create a thread like this, which always and inevitably stirs the drama back up.

Honestly, this is the internet. You can't govern it. The only way you're going to achieve an absolutely perfectly functioning community is if we all stop trying to dictate to each other what is the right canon and just encourage people to do what they want, find the group that fits them and enjoy the experience. That's all there is to it.

The point should be that there is NO overarching canon whatsover, otherwise you're just a hypocrite trying to push your own "one, true canon" on everyone else. Hi, I'm Dan.

04-Aug-2019 19:48:25 - Last edited on 05-Aug-2019 15:46:15 by Dansplainer

Vekon

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It's funny how all of us have identified the problematic individuals, but instead of moving past them and letting them fade into the background, we keep trying to bait them into a forum discussion.

I think it's time to drop the "what is the issue" and start talking about what the next move is, as the majority of the community.

I'll drop my two cents regarding the "Abolish PoK" thing, though. PoKs offer a style of RP that a lot of people enjoy. That's undeniable. There's so much stigma surrounding them that didn't exist in the past. And it isn't because of the system, it's about the people running them and the spite-wars fueled by age-old grudges that poisons it. I see a lot of "They used to be good, when ran by xyz", and that's exactly correct. They were once good. The reputation hasn't done well in the hands of incapable people.

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05-Aug-2019 20:26:40

Garth Vader
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PoKs have been a long staple of W42 however just beacuse something is a habbit does not make it a good habbit, ive enjoyed rping in PoK as much as the next guy however i think they do overall have a negative impact and its part of the reason i left w42, kinda felt like at the time you had to be in a PoK and you had to have some form of significance in that PoK otherwise your rp potentiol just felt extremely limited. But hey what do i know ive not rped in W42 for about 4 years now.
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10-Aug-2019 06:46:54

Jedi Jed

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I never, ever, ever comment on these types of threads normally because I simply cannot be bothered with getting into the orgy of arguments, however I feel like I should post something as this thread has made me consider some things.

I have pretty much all but given up on Runescape role play. It's not fun. People are segregated and rarely interact in a way I haven't seen for at least 8 or 9 years. There used to be a time when you could literally role play whatever you want, wherever you want with no one trying to loom over you like some fun devouring goblin. Like literally you could be walking between Varrock and Falador and see a couple people rping out in the wild and ask to join and bingo bango you're in a fun rp.

I had joined the role play scene after a hiatus back in 2010 to 2012, I can't exactly remember and I joined the Monvallis POK for a short time. Whilst it was fun I decided it wasn't for me as it felt restrictive to certain character I wanted to play.

The multiple split cannons and the overall attitudes of some of the members are out right disgusting. Normally saying something is unique is a good thing but the unique thing about Runescape Roleplay is how scattered and un-unified everyone is. I have no problem with POK as I know some people like the plots and the whole political and upper leader levels of the role play but for the sake of community unity I would say have the public Rp scene with NPC leaders such as the various NPC kings and rulers of Geilinor and for the POK roleplayers keep it private. That way you can keep your roleplay with the characters you want but then public rp isn't run by some backwards bureaucracy bullshit where you have to file out paperwork everytime you want to do something like run a guild.

The community gets smaller and smaller as time goes on and eventually it'll become a few closed off groups that don't interact and Runescape Roleplay will eventually die.

10-Aug-2019 12:56:17

K9 Morphed

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Vekon said :


. . .

I think it's time to drop the "what is the issue" and start talking about what the next move is, as the majority of the community.

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Be the change you want to see in the world xo

Thiiiiiiisss.

Great, you've identified that POKs don't work. Brilliant. A+. I appologise for the sass, but what is your real aim here? If a certain style of roleplay doesn't work then go try another one, don't sit around waiting for someone to do the obvious and try something new.

Abolishing a certain type of roleplay is neither productive nor possible; to say that POKs will never be popular again is unfounded, so you can't abolish them. Even then, people will roleplay what they want to; let's not forget, for a very long time Falador was unclaimable as a POK until someone decided to wave goodbye to that 'rule' and do it anyway.

Perhaps it's time to put the effort made into writing these threads and having these discussions into actually roleplaying . O_o #TeamDaenerys

13-Aug-2019 21:10:13

Lord Pyro I
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K9 Morphed said :

let's not forget, for a very long time Falador was unclaimable as a POK until someone decided to wave goodbye to that 'rule' and do it anyway.



Thank you K9, it's always nice to see my work remembered.

Also take a quick second look at the forums, you might notice this isn't quite so theorectical any more. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
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13-Aug-2019 21:26:26

Last Deterro
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K9 Morphed said :
Perhaps it's time to put the effort made into writing these threads and having these discussions into actually roleplaying . O_o

Ultimately, this. I started this thread because I'm off at uni and didn't really have much time to spare for RP, and yet there's been a helluvalot of conversation.

On the bright side, the Jagex Canon Initiative came out of this, so I don't think it's entirely a bad thing. And now, I hope, people will actually remember why they're here.

Roleplay. Have fun.

I think we can mark this thread as closed.
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16-Aug-2019 03:41:28

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