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HC Tervuren

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RiDaku said :
You're absolving yourselves of the awful things you've done to other people without the involvement of the people you did it to, and you're somehow shocked that they're angry about it.

That's very much a mirror statement. It's the same on both sides, so accusing our end only without acknowledging it on your's isn't really fair play.

RiDaku said :
This "the past is in the past" thing doesn't work. Reaaaaaaally doesn't work. All it is is a really poor attempt at nullifying the things that have been done or said by the offending party that resulted in them being replaced.

In retrospect on either side, again, it's the same on both sides. You're the offending party on our side, we're the offending party on your's. Everyone has said nasty things OOC. Forgive and forget to nullify it and move on. I'd like to try that and see how well it works before disregarding it. Because right now you're attempting to slice off a piece of the community because we (and I don't mean this in an insulting way) hurt your feelings.

You've done things likewise, and I'd post the screenshots if it didn't mean it'd totally derail what I'm trying to do here. It's really sad that we even have to take screenshots of childish immaturity tossed at one another on Discord. Moving past that and growing from it would be beneficial, don't you think?

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18-Jun-2019 10:40:01 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2019 10:44:48 by HC Tervuren

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2012

RiDaku

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Well, there you go. You just openly admitted to posting information about me. I didn't name myself, I didn't even hint that it was you that did it, because you haven't been the only person in this thread talking about "forgive and move on."

I think we can move on to other threads now - Someone who openly admits and defends contributing to the doxing of another roleplayer is really in no position to be complaining about how unjust it is to be ostracized. This thread is just gaslighting and sealioning the people you've abused and attacked, and now you're trying to appeal to third parties who weren't there to experience it. But here we are, grouping together to show you the door, and you're still talking amongst yourselves on what to do with the situation you caused yourselves. It's a weird hill to die on but hey. At least you're dead. The Sicarius |

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18-Jun-2019 10:43:00 - Last edited on 19-Jun-2019 02:06:08 by RiDaku

HC Tervuren

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RiDaku said :
Well, there you go. You just openly admitted to posting information about me.

What do you mean? I posted your Twitter gaming account months ago. How is that information about you? I don't know if you're talking about someone else or not, but I've not doxed you. I don't know anything about you beyond pictures you posted there.

I never said I defended it anyhow, and quite the contrary; every post I've made here is against that.

Also, should I not admit that? Pyro has been pointing out how we haven't (apparently) admitted our own faults for about eight pages now. I admit a potential fault and you shove this entire thread beneath the rug.

Likewise, shouldn't you admit faults on your end? I'm not even asking you to. I'd very much like to move beyond it so that we can discuss fixing the community.

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18-Jun-2019 10:47:48 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2019 10:50:15 by HC Tervuren

Ghazgkull

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At this point trying to reason with Ridaku is pointless. It's clear he has no desire to fix the RP community's problems and that's entirely his fault. What a shit show this thread turned in to and what a shame that is. WAAAGH!!!

18-Jun-2019 14:01:51

HC Tervuren

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Ghazgkull said :
At this point trying to reason with Ridaku is pointless. It's clear he has no desire to fix the RP community's problems and that's entirely his fault. What a shit show this thread turned in to and what a shame that is.

I don't know why. I'd like for him to be reasonable but it's fairly clear he is offended by something I've done, or possibly someone else because I don't know what he means by doxing. I've never doxed him. I don't know where he lives, what he does IRL or anything.

Anyway, I'd like to just about ignore that entire spiel if possible. It's kind of derailing.

Ridaku: If you'd like to talk to me privately, you have my Discord or can message me in-game.

Otherwise, let's please move past that and try to fix other problems.

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18-Jun-2019 14:13:32

Hazbollah

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RiDaku said :
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Sonicteej said :
Nothing has been resolved on the forums (or the community at large, as far as I can tell) in a long, long time and I think it's because people refuse to see themselves as part of the problem.

Gentle reminder because, judging from what you've been saying here and on the guide thread, it doesn't sound like you get it yet. All these sins disguised as blessings

18-Jun-2019 14:55:53

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2013

Geythir

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Geythir said :
How much fault that each and every single one of us shares. I, just like everyone else who has such strong thoughts on this matter, has done something wrong. To claim anything but, to claim that one side is worse than the other, is for neigh.

There was a time in this community where we were just that, a community. Where everyone had a space and everyone had a roleplay to belong to. And that's all that matters, the reason why we all log into this game to write about fake characters.

That is long lost to the past and now all we have is bitterness and hatred for each other that has poisoned us all.

Do any of us think for a moment that if we were able to somehow reach an agreement, we would be able to go back and act as if nothing happened? As if the past years of lies, hatred and plots haven’t lead to this point as some think designed to occur. Able to simply snap our fingers and all get along as if nothing happened.

No, and that is why we all had our own spaces to do as we wished.

The only possible way for this to move forward is a Two-State solution. To give us all time to remember when we didn’t sit in Chats plotting how we can bring the other down. Reading and analyzing every little sentence for some hidden meeting behind it.

Until that day comes, then we can still act civil to the other, like any grown adult can. We can have our own fun and our own stories. Perhaps then we’ll remember the magic of the first time we went In-Character.

And if it doesn't, then so be it.

If the other group ever wishes to roleplay, with no strings attached, then so be it and let's make it enjoyable for the both of us. Myles
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18-Jun-2019 16:00:12

Har Sicarius

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Lord Pyro I said :

You broke the rules mate, even on that very battle in so, so many ways. That's the problem, dig down on every disaster on W42 and we find your group at the heart of it.

As to your other points. Your notes on inactivity are just a desperate attempt to row backwards on announcements and facts we already know to be true, we know Kandarin was inactive so I'll ignore those comments.

As to your assertion that we are losing 20-30 people (a hugely inflated number) from this community thanks to this action. My answer is simple: Good. I won't speak for others but personally I don't believe you'll be missed. Despite your expressed concern for W42 to lose you rest assured that it will go on regardless. New people will continue to come to W42 and without your toxic group's involvement more of them will be happy to stay.

You might think that we need you, but I honestly cannot think of a single reason why.

Kandarin wasn't fully active, I am literally admitting that. My entire point was that inactivity is quantifiable and spread across the whole server. Your vain attempt to grasp at the straws of your 'inactivity!!' point shows how little footing you actually have for your actions.

Also 'my group' is a bizzare way of phrasing things. I joined Kandarin late, during this period of 'inactivity'. Until then, my entire rp career has been in roleplays acting against the Vekons. The Greys and the Vekons are the two powerful families I never really had anything to do with supporting.

Unless you mean my group of friends or something, but nor am I particularly close to the Kandarin clan, I am a new member and am meeting them properly after years of only interacting via rp.

Furthermore, your weird digs about inflated numbers have no place here. The discord has 20-30 people, I didn't claim they were all active, actually I spoke about them coming back individually if they wanted, and finding they had no place here.

TBC We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

18-Jun-2019 16:24:40

Har Sicarius

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Lord Pyro I said :

As to your assertion that we are losing 20-30 people (a hugely inflated number) from this community thanks to this action. My answer is simple: Good. I won't speak for others but personally I don't believe you'll be missed. Despite your expressed concern for W42 to lose you rest assured that it will go on regardless. New people will continue to come to W42 and without your toxic group's involvement more of them will be happy to stay.

You might think that we need you, but I honestly cannot think of a single reason why.

This is a terrible attutide to have. You might not miss me personally, good for you that your prerogative. But I've made my views on the server very clear, and everyone here knows numbers are way way way down comapred to what they used to be. If you really think booting people like me out will create some vast influx of people, you're either incredibly stupid or naive. This attitude of 'good riddence' is only on your side, I've talked openly about how I would continue to rp with any of you, despite all this, given the shot. But you're seemingly ready to just toss half the community away for your own gain.

Personal greed and bias are killing the server, but again thats only allowed to happen in instances like this, where the rules which stop that, are annoyed. I think you'll find everything links to breaking the rules.

I don't blame you guys for that, I've openly and frequently critiqued the greys for creating the uber clique environment which let friends avoid the rules. Both of us were outside that clique, so theres little to blame eachother on there. The difference between me and you is you're taking advantage of the shift in attitude they created to finally gain the pixel power you could never have in the servers glory days.

Sad thing is, you woulda had your power then if you coulda followed the rules. Instead, you resorted to this farce. We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

18-Jun-2019 16:30:57

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2008

Nathmatics

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Very much agree with a lot of the things you're saying @Kandarin Stu.

A good riddance attitude exacerbates the problem of the community getting smaller, I don't think I need to go beyond that or explain why this would be a wholly bad thing.

I'm honestly interested in what these instances of personal greed are though, is it being the big-boi of the server and having the title to go with it? Why would you particularly want that? I can understand being proud of the community. But at this rate, I wouldn't be particularly proud to represent this community, the shambles of which it is in. And if it's just to feel the power of being at the top of the food chain. I'd like to remind you, This is a roleplay community , being at the top doesn't particularly mean much. especially when the community in theory as a whole has a bigger hand in forming and deciding what goes on than just a single person or a few people.

If I'm missing some other kind of thing you'd be greedy for, please do enlighten me, because like Stu here, I myself prefer the smaller roles, I'm not inclined towards roleplaying any big roles, I prefer to be the smaller roles. I don't like the hassle of having to micromanage and frankly have never wanted this.

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18-Jun-2019 17:24:31 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2019 17:32:29 by Nathmatics

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