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Quael
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Nathmatics said :
Oxtus said :


I'm still optimistic that there is a middle ground to be found.


As am I. We just need to stop reveling in drama and instead just talk.

Each party; I won't name names but you know who you are, get into contact with each other, whether that be by all creating a group chat on discord or some other way, and just throw the topics of resolving your issues and generally just fix yourself up.

Yes it's simplified, but with enough effort all you need is a bit of cooperation, understanding, and a fuck ton of maturity and hopefully there will be progress.

Beyond that, take a bit of advice from Shia LaBeouf and "JUST DO IT, MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE"

sorry that it's a bit of a meme, but it's true, isn't it?


Agreed, there is always another solution, but I was called a lier about it, so oh well :)
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19-Jun-2019 01:30:00

Har Sicarius

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Nathmatics said :
Oxtus said :


I'm still optimistic that there is a middle ground to be found.


As am I. We just need to stop reveling in drama and instead just talk.

Each party; I won't name names but you know who you are, get into contact with each other, whether that be by all creating a group chat on discord or some other way, and just throw the topics of resolving your issues and generally just fix yourself up.

Yes it's simplified, but with enough effort all you need is a bit of cooperation, understanding, and a fuck ton of maturity and hopefully there will be progress.

Beyond that, take a bit of advice from Shia LaBeouf and "JUST DO IT, MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE"

sorry that it's a bit of a meme, but it's true, isn't it?

The community calls for a compromise, but why hasn't there been progress towards a compromise? I ask this as a legitimate question, no sarcasm, no nothing.


I've tried to give my opinion on this issue from a personal level so far, but for this I'll argue for a side.

I've watched Myles offer an olive branch, Gale apologise and to the same, to which they recieve the comment 'noted' and 'I for one wont be accepting that'.

Ask around, try and organsie it yourself, you'll see the Vekon/Old Kandarin side very willing to compromise and work with everyone, and the Void/Ridaku/Pyro group hanging onto old slights and demanding they will be doing things there way. You can look at Pyro's posts on these threads, he actively wants us all gone and isnt sorry for it.

Im with you lads, I'd love a compromise theres nothing I hate more than split canon. But it's one side stopping it from happening, and its the side claiming they are the ones making the server better by excluding the others at all costs.
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19-Jun-2019 01:33:07

Oxtus

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Well, since I am a part of that group (admin team currently), I am trying to keep the line open. I can't speak for Pyro or Ridaku, but I will speak for myself and many others in Misthalin who I know do not share the same view as them.

Most people in Misthalin don't want to see a split canon. At the same time, the domineering attitude that Vekon invasions pose to local RP has brought about a fair amount of fear, fear which gives legitimacy to the primary argument made by Pyro and Ridaku.
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19-Jun-2019 01:47:33 - Last edited on 19-Jun-2019 01:48:30 by Oxtus

Nathmatics
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KDF-Luth said :
Been kicked from Misthalin because I role play in both canons lads.


@Pyro, Can we get an official statement on the quote that's attached to this post please
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19-Jun-2019 02:49:00

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Nathmatics said :
KDF-Luth said :
Been kicked from Misthalin because I role play in both canons lads.


@Pyro, Can we get an official statement on the quote that's attached to this post please


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19-Jun-2019 03:33:29

HC Tervuren

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Oxtus said :
Most people in Misthalin don't want to see a split canon. At the same time, the domineering attitude that Vekon invasions pose to local RP has brought about a fair amount of fear, fear which gives legitimacy to the primary argument made by Pyro and Ridaku.


What argument? If the fear is an IC invasion, then this just really proves that all this OOC powerplay nonsense is a means to prevent us from attacking you IC. Which we have absolutely zero interest in doing IC.
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19-Jun-2019 04:14:42

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the majority of you manchildren are in your 20s

get a job you like, go the gym, get a GF/BF.


fuck's sake, it's like i'm looking at this forum via Wayback Machine from 5 years ago but I'M NOT

go to some MMO private server where you can build your own shit and be the GM of your kingdom of shit

i know a WoW private server that's so versatile you could just recreate RS places in it. and you can do revolutionary things like sit in chairs. crazy, right?


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19-Jun-2019 06:05:43 - Last edited on 19-Jun-2019 06:07:10 by DMMetalaane

Lord Pyro I
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HC Tervuren said :
Oxtus said :
Most people in Misthalin don't want to see a split canon. At the same time, the domineering attitude that Vekon invasions pose to local RP has brought about a fair amount of fear, fear which gives legitimacy to the primary argument made by Pyro and Ridaku.


What argument? If the fear is an IC invasion, then this just really proves that all this OOC powerplay nonsense is a means to prevent us from attacking you IC. Which we have absolutely zero interest in doing IC.


IC invasion can be difficult when dealing with a group that is incapable of following the rules in any way shape or form. But "OOC invasion" by way of... well threads like this trying to endlessly attack decisions from groups that have nothing to do with you are far more problematic. The often used combination of both is generally the most devastating to other groups and I can recall a dozen or so destroyed roleplay groups you've left in your wake because of it.

@Stu we've seen all the "compromises" enough times to know you don't mean a word of it. Or more accurately I know that you do believe you are offering a compromise but we'll still end up exactly where we are now again. So no thank you, our decision has been made. We don't have to roleplay with you if we don't want to.

@Seaver For the record I have a good job and am in perfectly good shape thank you very much. Admittedly currently single but that's life for you, I'm sure I won't stay that way for long. This is just a hobby and these are just people that I'm not interested in spending time doing that hobby with. Please take your fantasies about myself and other rpers elsewhere.
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19-Jun-2019 09:43:17

HC Tervuren

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Lord Pyro I said :
So no thank you, our decision has been made. We don't have to roleplay with you if we don't want to.


If this is the same response we will receive time and time again from you and the other two, then I suppose we're at a stalemate where the community remains fractured because three individuals so selfish would prefer speaking the minds of others despite repeatedly seeing that people in your own groups do not think the same as you.

If that is the case as I've seen your same response multiple times, then I'll be closing this thread and we will continue with the split-canon situation. Unfortunately, there is no work-around.

Effectively, from here on you have in all technicality destroyed POK-POK role-play with this situation unless it should arise inside of the split canons. Not only this, but you have effectively sliced in half the possibility of functional freelance role-play in this community as, repeatedly, you have stated that our group is in essence ignored.

That is unacceptable, but unfortunately nothing else can be done as determined here.

It is sad to see literal community leads and group leads alike coming together to destroy their own community so that they can essentially banish and execute people they, personally, dislike. It is out of character for people to act in such a way, and it is abysmal to reach this conclusion.

But this seems to be the unmoving status quo, and the only people willing to make change are those beneath you in your groups (to which you have banned a few for their opinions).

I hope someday your minds change. I and everyone else would be more than happy to welcome you back into our groups despite the turmoil caused the past week or two, but right now it seems your minds are settled elsewhere.
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19-Jun-2019 14:22:10 - Last edited on 19-Jun-2019 14:30:30 by HC Tervuren

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