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Har Sicarius

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It’s a weird thing to sit here and self-criticise, but hopefully it gives some perspective to my side of things and how we’ve ended up where we are. One side might have a point about inactivity, or the confusion of multiple canons already set, but when that’s what you’re faced with that’s what you have to deal with, and it baffles me to think how people decide to just out rule break a clan to claim land for themselves.

Kandarin have welcomed invasion, and just a few weeks ago Cas tried it and they all got online and had their scrap. They woulda done the same this time, if you’d followed the rules. Ridaku didn’t follow the rules with Donblas, he told the Kinshra he wouldn’t accept invasion, can you really blame Vekon Kandarin for being sceptical even if you did reach out? But to try so little and then just straight up powerplay them out of their land is horrific conduct. Its’s even worse considering it comes from a wiki admin, who’s trying to bully the public canon into his favour by editing the wiki with his own administrative powers.

I don’t really know what I wanted to achieve writing this, but hopefully it can dispel some of the nonsense getting thrown about on this thread and make folk take a bit of a look at themselves. I think the blame on this one sits with the aggressors, but the community itself has been a shambles for a while so it's no real surprise something like this has happened, and the victims here are not an innocent party.

Thing is, if we all just followed the rules we could be making the best of the small community we have left. I've admitted to being a knob and breaking rules about common decency, would be nice if the other side would have a look at their roleplay conduct and maybe work to change things. I roleplayed in Pyros Misthalin, and we chatted fine in PM about any issues. There was no rulebreaking, so all was great. Then you go and act like this and powerplay a full clan, so there's drama. Why are you surprised? You broke the rules We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

16-Jun-2019 02:12:37 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 02:23:25 by Har Sicarius

Casindra Rin

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Har Sicarius said :
Its’s even worse considering it comes from a wiki admin, who’s trying to bully the public canon into his favour by editing the wiki with his own administrative powers.

What do you mean by this?
CASINDRA RIN
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16-Jun-2019 02:34:24

Vekon

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Casindra Rin said :
Har Sicarius said :
Its’s even worse considering it comes from a wiki admin, who’s trying to bully the public canon into his favour by editing the wiki with his own administrative powers.

What do you mean by this?

Basically the leader of this "new Kandarin" is an admin of a RSRP wiki, where people record their histories/characters and such. It's used by a few members of the community but it generally isn't seen as much more than a way to document your characters on a public site.

He's edited it in favor of another of these split canon situations dealing with one of his friends, so I think that might be what Stu is referring to.
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16-Jun-2019 02:40:05 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 02:41:24 by Vekon

Casindra Rin

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Vekon said :

Basically the leader of this "new Kandarin" is an admin of a RSRP wiki, where people record their histories/characters and such. It's used by a few members of the community but it generally isn't seen as much more than a way to document your characters on a public site.

Sure, I understand the purpose of the wiki itself, I was just wondering what these accusations were of an admin changing things on the wiki to suit their narrative.
CASINDRA RIN
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16-Jun-2019 02:41:30

Casindra Rin

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Vekon said :

He's edited it in favor of another of these split canon situations dealing with one of his friends, so I think that might be what Stu is referring to.

I see. Not this instance, but something in the past? Not trying to stir any pots needlessly, that was just a very brazen and concerning thing to say, so I wanted to ask.
CASINDRA RIN
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16-Jun-2019 02:43:03

Har Sicarius

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Casindra Rin said :
Vekon said :

He's edited it in favor of another of these split canon situations dealing with one of his friends, so I think that might be what Stu is referring to.

I see. Not this instance, but something in the past? Not trying to stir any pots needlessly, that was just a very brazen and concerning thing to say, so I wanted to ask.

Yeah, despite there being occurances in the past of having multiple canons, a concept I am against as its something thats occured as part of the rule breaking culture we've adpoted on the server, theres no mention of that here and Void has added all of his own cannon in the timeline for Ardougne, forcing his own narrative into the records.

Sure, I could go change it - but who's gonna win that battle me or the admin?

He's made his point, not bothering to adhere to the established formula of explaining on the wiki that theres multiple canons, instead hes decided his own is the right one and as an admin, it's hard to argue with him over it. We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

16-Jun-2019 02:52:26

Casindra Rin

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Har Sicarius said :
Casindra Rin said :
Vekon said :

He's edited it in favor of another of these split canon situations dealing with one of his friends, so I think that might be what Stu is referring to.

I see. Not this instance, but something in the past? Not trying to stir any pots needlessly, that was just a very brazen and concerning thing to say, so I wanted to ask.

Yeah, despite there being occurances in the past of having multiple canons, a concept I am against as its something thats occured as part of the rule breaking culture we've adpoted on the server, theres no mention of that here and Void has added all of his own cannon in the timeline for Ardougne, forcing his own narrative into the records.

Sure, I could go change it - but who's gonna win that battle me or the admin?

He's made his point, not bothering to adhere to the established formula of explaining on the wiki that theres multiple canons, instead hes decided his own is the right one and as an admin, it's hard to argue with him over it.

Hm. I wasn't sure since the Runescape Roleplayers Wiki outlines this recent split in events (as far as I'm aware) on the History of Ardougne page as...the History of Ardougne. Are those edits sanctioned by all, or was that an addition that wasn't made by the character?
CASINDRA RIN
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16-Jun-2019 03:27:59 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 03:28:18 by Casindra Rin

Har Sicarius

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Casindra Rin said :
Har Sicarius said :
Casindra Rin said :
Vekon said :

He's edited it in favor of another of these split canon situations dealing with one of his friends, so I think that might be what Stu is referring to.

I see. Not this instance, but something in the past? Not trying to stir any pots needlessly, that was just a very brazen and concerning thing to say, so I wanted to ask.

Yeah, despite there being occurances in the past of having multiple canons, a concept I am against as its something thats occured as part of the rule breaking culture we've adpoted on the server, theres no mention of that here and Void has added all of his own cannon in the timeline for Ardougne, forcing his own narrative into the records.

Sure, I could go change it - but who's gonna win that battle me or the admin?

He's made his point, not bothering to adhere to the established formula of explaining on the wiki that theres multiple canons, instead hes decided his own is the right one and as an admin, it's hard to argue with him over it.

Hm. I wasn't sure since the Runescape Roleplayers Wiki outlines this recent split in events (as far as I'm aware) on the History of Ardougne page as...the History of Ardougne. Are those edits sanctioned by all, or was that an addition that wasn't made by the character?

I'm really unsure what you mean. I look at the History of Ardougne page and see a lot of history wrirten up as the Raktober Revolution talking about a load of things that never actually happened in roleplay. One side claims they did, because they just powerplayed them all to happen, and the other says no.

The issue is, one sides events are on the wiki as fact - the side that is supported by the wiki admin. We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

16-Jun-2019 03:36:20

Vekon

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Casindra Rin said :
Hm. I wasn't sure since the Runescape Roleplayers Wiki outlines this recent split in events (as far as I'm aware) on the History of Ardougne page as...the History of Ardougne. Are those edits sanctioned by all, or was that an addition that wasn't made by the character?

Everyone can edit and post content on the wiki. The only time problems arise are when split canon shenanigans occur, and it strictly affects the History pages. In the past, there's been drama regarding who gets their way in the most recent updates of the related page. It was usually solved by adding a disclaimer to the page that notifies the reader that both pieces of history exist(ed) at the same time. I imagine Void wouldn't let that fly this time, and he was the one to squash the last split-canon situation in favor of Ridaku's group.
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16-Jun-2019 03:39:09

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