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I'm not sure what to think at this point.

Many people are derailing and slipping into conversation about issues years old, attacking personal problems and claiming they are a legitimate issue or providing factless, baseless "trust me I'm right" responses to real accusations worth providing thought to.

I asked for civility and was given a few pages of that, although (as expected) the community here responded otherwise with direct accusations at people's character and have pulled poor history of individuals into the light as a form of excuse to justify their current actions against them.

No "excuse" exists for role-breaking in an RP community.

No legitimate solutions have been posted here in the last 140 pages of lengthy posts, and as said are mostly accusations (truthful or otherwise) and people bickering about which side is right or wrong. I have my opinions on that and others have their's, but it does not cover the issue here.

We need a solution.

Do we, Kandarin from the past 10+ years accept being overwritten and take our group into "private"? Do we create our own canon and, therefore, RP over the other split canon? That's what we're looking at to have a fulfilled POK when overwritten. I imagine it would not bode well with Pyro, Void or Ridaku.

We don't have the members to run three POKs. Neither, I would imagine, do Pyro, Void and Ridaku. For that reason you might see them RPing characters in each POK, and that's not meant to be insulting. It's to show how small the community is and how this is damaging it all.

We, as Kandarin, have the same years-long interest to continue and the people to support it. Does Void? I don't know, but what I do know is that us going "private" won't help anything on their end. They won't acknowledge us for various reasons, true or not that they have presented.

It sounds to me like every single bit of this stems from years-long buildup of hatred between one another. It's honestly really sad. I wish I could get along with everyone equally. I remember when Ridaku and I were pretty decent friends years ago around 2013-2015, and nothing was an issue between us. I also remember a lot of times in the past years Pyro and I getting along.

We also bickered, but I don't ever remember anything being too startling. For Void, I honestly don't recall who they are due to name changes throughout the years, but given I don't really seem to know them I figure we've never hated eachother. I would hope we've gotten along.

With all this in mind, I doubt the counter-solution to the one already mentioned would work: Voiding the split canon Kandarin and asking Void to hand back the controls. Regardless, it is what caused this problem to begin with, and reverting to how things were two weeks ago would be the best options for everyone involved.

I'd like to go a step further even though I don't really know how well it'd work in the community here and ask that everyone forgive the opposing party for issues in the past. We're all, I suspect, adults now; we've all (just about) been in this community since W42 existed as W31, way back in the day. We were little kids back then, immature and highly toxic when we opposed one another. Every single one of us has grown from then.

So has our problems with one another, and so has our knowledge of one another expanded. Everyone knows eachother pretty well, some of us having even met IRL over the years, something we never really expected to happen when we first went in character on W42. Hell, some people even met and have gotten married or had kids from meeting in this community.

That's pretty awesome to think about, with Quick Chat "This is not a dating site." echoing in the background.

I digress, but I do think a sort of "I forgive you" kinda thing -- while cliche and very cheesy -- could kind of work and help us to reset to a week or so ago and acknowledge one another in the POK realm and, hopefully, work together and have an awesome community.

Disregarding all previous problems we've had would surely help to bring a toxic community together. Sure, people will still have their problems and I'm sure things won't last forever, but it is certainly a step (and probably the only possible one) in the right direction. Like I said, the community tends to take two steps forwards and ten steps back.

I'd like to take two steps forwards and place a barrier behind us to prevent us taking those ten steps back. Maybe this solution is the right one. But certainly, it can't be the wrong one. It eliminates nobody, reverting back two weeks and handling the issue entirely OOC.

And hopefully we can all agree that it's a good idea worth working on.

Please proceed to discuss this and not continue bickering with previous posts. Thanks!