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Casindra Rin

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Har Sicarius said :
I look at the History of Ardougne page and see a lot of history wrirten up as the Raktober Revolution talking about a load of things that never actually happened in roleplay. One side claims they did, because they just powerplayed them all to happen, and the other says no.

The issue is, one sides events are on the wiki as fact - the side that is supported by the wiki admin.

I wasn't sure if it was canon roleplay or if it was added by an admin without the player's consent, because the wiki comes off as being a game-wide community site (as roleplay wikis tend to be).

Seems that's not the case. That's all I need to know.

CASINDRA RIN

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16-Jun-2019 03:39:28

Vekon

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RS3 Chance said :
As of this message, anything Aren related that has been done with this alternate canon of Kandarin player owned kingdom is null... and Void. For all the worth that my word has, I bestow upon you my honest and truthful criticism so you know exactly how to make to make everything you do better in the end.

Firstly, do not send spies upon people and groups out of character, to even conceive the notion that receiving out of character information via espionage is okay and to push it off as 'They came to us of their own volition' and to deny that you still accepted the information, whilst proof says otherwise, tells that you are going to do something with that information, whether to metagame or whatever. Its distasteful. Even I, who has ears in every little corner in the role-play world, would be embarrassed at the notion that someone would even accuse me of using those ears for my own personal agenda. It literally is just role-play, it doesn't need to be politics.

Secondly, I have seen undeniable proof of an admin of this group being okay with role-playing another persons character without their permission. I assume I don't need to explain this forbidden act as one of the very few cardinal sins that most role-players take to heart, but for you on-lookers that are indeed looking at this thread, it is called Godmodding and it is genuinely abhorrent.

I really do hope you take these two points I've made to heart, soak it in before I go forward and away from this political frenzy of a forum thread. Assumedly, I don't have to point out the other problems this role-play group has concerning most everything that was mentioned before.

In case you were wondering what normal role-play rules are, look at the sticky called 'In-game Roleplay Quide & Help' right at the top of the ingame roleplay forum, you really can't miss it.

This was posted on Void's thread and is relevant to our topic.

KANDAR VICTA

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HouseVekon

16-Jun-2019 03:40:34

Har Sicarius

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Casindra Rin said :
Har Sicarius said :
I look at the History of Ardougne page and see a lot of history wrirten up as the Raktober Revolution talking about a load of things that never actually happened in roleplay. One side claims they did, because they just powerplayed them all to happen, and the other says no.

The issue is, one sides events are on the wiki as fact - the side that is supported by the wiki admin.

I wasn't sure if it was canon roleplay or if it was added by an admin without the player's consent, because the wiki comes off as being a game-wide community site (as roleplay wikis tend to be).

Seems that's not the case. That's all I need to know.

Yeah, Void is the leader of the alternative Kandarin and the wiki admin in question! He's seemingly proven in the past to favour his friends in issues of split canon, and this whole debacle is another issue of split cannon due to the original clan not accepting Voids powerplay. Void has since updated the wiki to favour his series of events over the other canon. We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

16-Jun-2019 03:47:04

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RiDaku

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Yknow, I really did try to ignore this thread like Void suggested I do after we all collaborated on that big post together, but I really just can't help myself. You guys post a lot of bait and I love to argue. So I'm going to preface this that, despite being an admin in the discord server and helping Void with Kandarin where he needs it, I am speaking for myself here, and in no way represent him or his group in this moment. So let me open with the first thing, that you're currently shaming him over regarding the wiki.

The split-canon on History of Falador's wikia page was supported right up until members of the alternative now-removed "Aren Era" (which I should note is not me shaming the Aren group, it just happens to be the name of the era that one person in particular decided to name their section after) began massively editing random wiki articles with slander and harassment, with another admin - Lor - counting 488 edits in the span of one night. Are you actually going to die on this hill, saying that striking the section created by the people massively griefing the wiki was unjust? Like, honestly? And I'm also going to call every single bluff Stu just put out, from being "only offensive for the sake of reactions" all the way to him saying that poor Ian was so hard done by in his Burthorpe event. Give me a bit of time and I can even go find all the quotes where Ian's pity-me whining was called out by people who were there, bringing to light all the stupid things that his side pulled..

..ironically, with Stu being part of it. Wow. Bet nobody saw that coming.

Something I wanted to say but Void struck from the mass-post? This whole thread is just "Let's talk our shit and shake hands about it." The only factual thing that any of you (stu, vekon, tervuren, etc) has posted is when you quoted Void in saying

Original message details are unavailable.
Not everybody complaining right now is from your group
And you responded with
"There are definitely people outside our group complaining." The Sicarius |

They think they are "the many", and I "the few". They think this gives them the right to walk over me.

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16-Jun-2019 03:48:56

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2012

RiDaku

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So there. I fell for the bait and I replied because holy shit the amount of inaccuracies or straight-up lies you're posting in response is more than I can comfortably stomach letting go uncontested. If you really want me to, and you're going to keep lying until I do, I will go back through all 50 pages of this subforum and post available quotes from each thread disproving the things that you are saying.

Hopefully I don't have to. But who knows, you guys are pretty damn shameless in this. The Sicarius |

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16-Jun-2019 03:50:12 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 03:50:53 by RiDaku

Casindra Rin

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Very interesting take on everything going on. Frankly, it sounds like a lot of bad blood and old grudges being brought up and I don't have the background in this community nor the understanding of who's who to even think I'd be within my rights to make judgments on any of you. I'd like to be a part of this game's roleplay community, and seeing this sort of situation is....difficult.

Difficult, but entirely insightful.

Anyway, apologies if I've looked as though I'm baiting anything. I'm mostly too curious for my own good and very passionate.

- C

CASINDRA RIN

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16-Jun-2019 04:05:23

Vekon

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RiDaku said :
The split-canon on History of Falador's wikia page was supported right up until members of the alternative now-removed "Aren Era" (which I should note is not me shaming the Aren group, it just happens to be the name of the era that one person in particular decided to name their section after) began massively editing random wiki articles with slander and harassment, with another admin - Lor - counting 488 edits in the span of one night.

I can tell you factually that the person who spam griefed the wiki is not the same person who made the "Aren Era" section of the page. They were assumed to be the same person, or at least associated with one another, and thusly they got punished by their entry being removed.

Don't know anything about the Burthorpe fiasco as I wasn't there, so I won't speak on it.

KANDAR VICTA

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HouseVekon

16-Jun-2019 04:08:54

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RiDaku

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@Casindra
You're more than welcome to partake. We aren't the only community of roleplayers despite what some might want you to think, there are a lot of splinter and isolationist groups that do their own things behind closed doors and away from the forums. For fairly good reasons, because making a thread on these forums winds up being subject to trial-by-fire if it falls outside of one circle's expectations. I'd recommend White Rose Sanctuary or (if they're still active) Church of.. ayleanism? Aylianism? Honestly I'd love to recommend it if I knew how to spell it. There's a couple others that I don't know of that swim under the radar, and none of them are associated with what goes on here on the forums or the drama that happens.

If you wind up wanting to get involved with this, though. Keep your eye on it a little longer before you make a decision. Make your own inferences off peoples' behaviors instead of a thread where everybody from one group agrees with themselves in regards to a collection of others, making vague references and worrying claims about their own history "not mattering anymore" and never going in to detail about it. There's always a reason they don't give detail.

Vekon said :
I can tell you factually that the person who spam griefed the wiki is not the same person who made the "Aren Era" section of the page. They were assumed to be the same person, or at least associated with one another, and thusly they got punished by their entry being removed.

When Lor laid out the bans on IP's, the person who made the "Aren Era" section got picked up (and their forum etiquette really didn't help matters), and some others were found out by casual conversation in the RSRP Wiki discord because they used VPN's. But again, don't tell the whole truth, it might look bad. The Sicarius |

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16-Jun-2019 04:10:14 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 04:15:40 by RiDaku

Casindra Rin

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Not to stray from the topic, but thank you.

RiDaku said :
If you wind up wanting to get involved with this, though. Keep your eye on it a little longer before you make a decision.

You know, as grand as it all seems, I think I'll remain a neutral third party lol.

CASINDRA RIN

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16-Jun-2019 04:13:58

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2012

RiDaku

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Whaaaat? I just don't get why you wouldn't want to get involved here, we've got everything you need! OOC drama, backstabbing, occasional doxing and threats of ddos, forum flame and trolling, all the important parts of any roleplay community. N-.. No? Just here? Oh. The Sicarius |

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16-Jun-2019 04:16:02 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 04:17:08 by RiDaku

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