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Casindra Rin

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HC Tervuren said :
How is this relevant to the discussion?

Though it's not relevant to this particular point about split canon, I think it's important enough to it contextually to bring up since he's involved.

That's not cool to defame someone like that.

CASINDRA RIN

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17-Jun-2019 14:11:03

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2010

CrocoNuts

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HC Tervuren said :
CrocoNuts said :
Glad to see this posted in such a civil manner. Seems like a thread worth making a good contribution to no matter what your stance on this whole Ardougne thing is.

I'm unsure if you've posted your reply yet but if you still want do I'd love to hear it. I've been patiently waiting for any suggestions you might have to offer.

No. I have not. I currently have two jobs, two studies, a relationship, study groups, an internship and one adorable cockatiel that simply take up a lot of time, time I can’t spend on recreational activities. Besides being busy with my own roleplay group, I have of course watched the forums’ many new threads and read the things the people in the community have said. I really enjoy working with people in general and hope that the context of me being a super motivated teachers’ trainee offers an explanation where my personal views of resolving conflict come from. Both my studies, jobs and internship involve people and conflict resolution is a big theme in all of them. This is not me waltzing in as 'Mr people expert' but it's to offer context about the environment where I am most of the time and give you a reason as to why I have not/will not(?) comment on the whole thing now and give you what feels like a whinny rant about myself instead. Sorry in advance.

After one week of trying to understand the situation, taking in posts from all sides, talking to people interested in what I had to say on Discord and sharing my occasional view of the matter in public Discord groups from time to time I’ve honestly reached a point where I no longer know what to say.

I don’t even know if it’s because there is simply so much to say and talk about or because I don’t want to talk about it anymore because I’ll probably sound like a broken record with everything that has been said about this all the last few days. Quickly learn how to Roleplay on RuneScape!

I am bad and that's good, I will never be good and that's not bad, there's no one I'd rather be than me.

17-Jun-2019 14:22:30 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 14:29:11 by CrocoNuts

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2010

CrocoNuts

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- Cont.

It could even be that I just don’t feel confident enough in sharing my opinion on the forums. Why? I feel like I am not done forming it yet, that’s a starter. I still have private conversations with people where I mostly get asked to share some of my own perspectives as I ask about the other ones’. I feel more comfortable there because it feels more like casual conversation instead of posting a statement on a public thread.

I know of myself that I simply can’t properly try to explain myself that if I really want to post a statement. I want to post something that I see making sense to the biggest possible audience as I come in with some clear and understandable. I can’t do that, not without breaking the codes of the forums without the use of names. I’m sorry for keeping you waiting if you were, but I simply must withhold for now to get very oppiniated about this. It’s a delicate subject and I want to take my time. Quickly learn how to Roleplay on RuneScape!

I am bad and that's good, I will never be good and that's not bad, there's no one I'd rather be than me.

17-Jun-2019 14:22:54

HC Tervuren

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Casindra Rin said :
HC Tervuren said :
How is this relevant to the discussion?

Though it's not relevant to this particular point about split canon, I think it's important enough to it contextually to bring up since he's involved.

That's not cool to defame someone like that.

I'm just wondering the relevance start-to-end of that piece from both sides. It's not relevant at all, I think. Accusations or the replies.

CrocoNuts said :
I simply must withhold for now to get very oppiniated about this. It’s a delicate subject and I want to take my time.

No worries, and I appreciate you taking the time to reply along with withholding anything further. I'd prefer a response well-thought rather than one just said on the spot.

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17-Jun-2019 14:40:28

Har Sicarius

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Har Sicarius said :

As we seem to have two threads discussing similar issues, I'll leave this here to see some of my follow up comments regarding my earlier posts on this thread. We come here with no peaceful intent, but ready for battle, determined to avenge our wrongs and set our country free.

17-Jun-2019 15:26:20

Nov

2018

Lord Pyro I

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@HC

In response to your answers

1. I like how the fact that I did not specify the exact time period led you to pick a time period in which I wasn't heavily involved and then say that it was my own lack of involvement that was the issue. Also I heard that the tourny in question didn't go very far in the end but still further than the one you tried to run in Ardy, from which I can draw certain conclusions about your ongoing activity.

2. Yeah we're accepting that one as self evident, as in we are not going to waste our time explaining this. Mainly because it feels more like another delaying tactic than a legitimate inquiry. As to our "rule breaking", claiming over an inactive pok is not rule breaking, refusing to acknowledge rule breakers is not rule breaking.

3. Well this is the first time I've ever seen you admit to the discord stuff so we'll start with that. If that has really has been "covered" as you claim, why haven't I received an apology for what you did to my discord server? In fact while i can't say this definitively I think if I check with a friend of mine whose discord you also hit he'll say you haven't apologized to him either. I should dearly like to know who has been absolving you because it certainly isn't those that were affected by your actions. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

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17-Jun-2019 18:05:28

Vekon

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Har Sicarius said :
Lord Pyro I said :

2. Rule breaking is the issue, I accept that. One that we are resolving by removing you and your group from any position that gives you the oppotunity to continue doing so as you have done for the past... Well let's just say 5 years minimum?

3. You have not yet come close to admitting to your flaws on this server and frankly I personally will never accept you as a roleplayer until that happens.

I don't really know why I've been drawn back into this again but yeesh I gotta highlight this.

This attitude is disgusting. Pyro infamously breaks the rules. He's the go to example of somebody who isnt skilled or personable enough to create a story others rally to, yet his ego insists he has to be a ruler. So what does Pyro do? He breaksn the rules to try and get his way. He plays OP characters, he pushes you to a situation where its you or him, character death or character death, and when he dies he ignores it but should you die, he'll hold it over you for the rest of your life.

This is the man, who to finally get control of a POK, had to create an alternate account and pretend to be somebody else. When it was a 'new face' we gave his mistakes a by, we let him do incorrect things and rule break and tried to politely correct him because he was 'new'. Pyro took this acceptance as justification that people have a stigma against him, when in reality theres just a huge difference between mistakes with the rules from a new roleplayer and one who's been about for years and years and has a track record of repeatedly making those mistakes with no effort to better himself.

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KANDAR VICTA

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17-Jun-2019 18:10:30

Vekon

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Har Sicarius said :
And you know what? I still turned up to RP in Pyro's Misthalin - because if he's roleplaying, and not breaking the rules, then it's just roleplay and who cares. But for him to post this sort of stuff, especially his third point here, where he sits on some high horse and refuses to accept another roleplayer over a track record? Man, talk about hypocritical.

Just gonna drop this here.

KANDAR VICTA

Axel Vekon, the Eternal Emperor, the Archmage, the Lichslayer, of the Holy Kandarin Empire.

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HouseVekon

17-Jun-2019 18:11:21 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 18:11:42 by Vekon

Vekon

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So far I've seen people on one side admitting to their faults and wrong doings, and some individuals on the other side continuing to point blames, make seemingly baseless accusations*, and paint themselves as perfect innocents in the whole of these issues. It's really sad.

We've all made mistakes. Why aren't all of us capable of realizing that and coming to terms with that?

* Baseless in the sense that the accuser literally refuses to actually give any real truth, because they would be "wasting their time" otherwise. Yet here they are, posting on the thread in the first place.

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17-Jun-2019 18:25:35

HC Tervuren

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Lord Pyro I said :

1. I like how the fact that I did not specify the exact time period led you to pick a time period ..

Yeah, that's why I said "I only recall", meaning that's the only time I ever noticed you RPing in our group.

Lord Pyro I said :
Also I heard that the tourny in question didn't go very far in the end but still further than the one you tried to run in Ardy ..

You're right. And I don't much understand the relevance nor how it relates to activity. People just didn't like the idea of a joust, nothing but.

Lord Pyro I said :
2. Yeah we're accepting that one as self evident, as in we are not going to waste our time explaining this.

Why is this the answer every time? I don't understand and am asking for clarification. Every time I am told that it's a waste of your time. It's not a "delay tactic". What am I delaying? I don't understand.

Lord Pyro I said :
As to our "rule breaking", claiming over an inactive pok is not rule breaking, refusing to acknowledge rule breakers is not rule breaking.

But we're not inactive. "Claiming over" is powerplaying, plain and simple.

Lord Pyro I said :
If that has really has been "covered" as you claim, why haven't I received an apology for what you did to my discord server?

What do you mean when you say "what you did"? I didn't do anything to your Discord other than post images in an entry channel without any roles. Does that even demand an apology? And is it legitimately important to the health of the entire community? I feel like we're pulling for straws here.

I'm not demanding an apology from you for banning me from all your Discords without reason prior to that happening. Why? Because I don't care and it's irrelevant to a community issue on RuneScape.

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17-Jun-2019 18:29:28 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 18:31:36 by HC Tervuren

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