RuneScape Forum Archive | Why should anyone RP???

Oct

2012

RiDaku

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So, this thread poses the question, "Why should anyone rp?"

The answer is because RuneScape has one of the most rich, involving and inviting stories I've ever seen. There is an "in" for just about anything you want to do. Otherworldly creatures come through Faerie rings or the World Gate, maybe they walk through bonfires sent by the Queen of Ashes, or maybe they just fly here like Tuska did. Mutants and half-breeds, furries or human-like beasts come from the Tower of Life. Altered humanoids come from the Order of Ascension or from Arposandra where the toxic sludge mutates the terrorbirds and tortoises. Magic is rich and customizeable and alt-canons even exist like the Dimension of Disaster leaking through to "our" dimension. You can do anything.

If you take a look at this forum, the roleplay scene looks dead and snuffed, nobody able to get along and everything on fire. Threads get flamed to dirt, people make snide comments, people lie and then you get in-game and go to the "hub" locations and you just see more of the same. It sucks. Ironically enough, if you want real roleplay away from the vitriol, you have to look at clan recruitment and find the clans listed with "roleplay" in their tags. You largely have to go off-world since people avoid this area like the plague. You're not wrong. It's a complete and utter joke.

Like my guide says in the very first post. World 42 is the designated world for roleplay, but you'll find it in more places than here. You'll find it hidden under bushes and rocks that people don't generally turn over because why look? Why bother putting in effort to find it if it's all going to be like what you see?

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16-Jun-2019 23:07:35 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2019 23:14:02 by RiDaku

Jul

2008

Nathmatics

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@Vekon

Pretty much have to agree with everything you say. It was the case that if you didn't fit the (relativelly flexible) mould, people just wouldn't take you seriously, and the fact that was the case pretty much got people to conform for fear of being outcast and subsequently having nobody to roleplay with.

The way I word this makes it sound bad, but compared to how things are currently, it was actually pretty damn good .

You were able to have this unified cannon that everyone dearly misses without too much conflict. This was true with many different POKs/POCs, hell, even the Vampyres were more or less even able to agree on most stuff, whether you were a Foryx, Nourom or any other house member.

Don't know if I'm starting to go off on a tangant here though, do tell me if I am.

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16-Jun-2019 23:10:54

Vekon

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Nathmatics said :
@Vekon

Pretty much have to agree with everything you say. It was the case that if you didn't fit the (relativelly flexible) mould, people just wouldn't take you seriously, and the fact that was the case pretty much got people to conform for fear of being outcast and subsequently having nobody to roleplay with.

The way I word this makes it sound bad, but compared to how things are currently, it was actually pretty damn good .

You were able to have this unified cannon that everyone dearly misses without too much conflict. This was true with many different POKs/POCs, hell, even the Vampyres were more or less even able to agree on most stuff, whether you were a Foryx, Nourom or any other house member.

Don't know if I'm starting to go off on a tangant here though, do tell me if I am.

Right. There was a method to it all. There was order, it was fun, and there was actually community storytelling and cooperation. What's left now is just spite between a split community.

People were mature and did things in the spirit of role-play. Now, there are too many people with agendas that do not pertain to stories and ensuring a good time for all. I don't think there will be a turning point unless something drastic happens.

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16-Jun-2019 23:24:13

HC Tervuren

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Ridaku it's interesting seeing you speak of the current "disaster" as you call it from a seemingly third-person perspective, like an outside party uninvolved.

Regardless, the entire point you make about roleplay being dead, smashed, destroyed and the remains burned is specifically caused by issues like the one you and two others have created. Rule breaking and ignoring the reaction as best as you can is the problem. Please realize this.

I have no problems accepting my own flaws in the community and have gone over them plentifully, but I would also like for others to do the same and understand the turmoil they cause by their actions.

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16-Jun-2019 23:34:03

Dark Lamia

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HC Tervuren said :
Ridaku it's interesting seeing you speak of the current "disaster" as you call it from a seemingly third-person perspective, like an outside party uninvolved.

Regardless, the entire point you make about roleplay being dead, smashed, destroyed and the remains burned is specifically caused by issues like the one you and two others have created. Rule breaking and ignoring the reaction as best as you can is the problem. Please realize this.

I have no problems accepting my own flaws in the community and have gone over them plentifully, but I would also like for others to do the same and understand the turmoil they cause by their actions.

Actually, roleplay in Kandarin is like Christmas, Easter & Halloween, it only comes around once a year!

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16-Jun-2019 23:57:14

Ghazgkull

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RiDaku said :
Speaking as someone who only stepped up into properly leading a PoK in october because I was begged to, and kept it only to provide a welcome and safe area for people that wanted to taste that style of RP without all the backstabbing and OOC stress

the nasty remarks about other people and the rumors of doxxing and ddosing really make things appear safe. try harder. WAAAGH!!!

17-Jun-2019 00:36:58

Hazbollah

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RiDaku said :
Because until "recently" (read; past 3 years or so), the people in the PoK system were mostly able to get along.

Exactly; apparently the people in the PoK system now are incapable of getting along, or at least don't respect that the system is greater than themselves and therefore requires dignity and a fair code of conduct. The "recently" - I'm not sure why you chose to quote that, it's a legitimate observation many have seen - is ever since people championed for the will to choose aka do whatever you want, forget the rules that are there for a reason .

RiDaku said :
Handing it off to their friends, or even sometimes handing it off to themselves. Massive dramas kicking up whenever someone outside the friend group got power.

First point's not wrong. They did often pass between friends. There have also been plenty who were of no relation to each other, especially wherein a POC gets abandoned - someone usually completely external just writes up an excuse why X left and why Y has it now. Moot point.

I don't recall 'massive' dramas of that nature.

RiDaku said :
I've heard more than enough about Sae and another person's Kandarins contesting one another. I know that despite how often people will tongue-bathe the Russia Blood era of Kandarin that it was just as big a disaster as this all is now.

What? I was around for Sae's Kandarin - hell, I'm the guy who caused the transition, not to mention it was really just Ardougne at that point - and it wasn't contested at all. In fact throughout my early years there were never any problems about 'split canons'. You could argue there were 'competitions' between who would run a POC, sure, but they were always resolved because one would back out and there certainly wouldn't be two concurrent clans.

I honestly don't think you know what you're talking about here. All these sins disguised as blessings

17-Jun-2019 00:41:06 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 00:45:35 by Hazbollah

Hazbollah

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Vekon said :
There was a method to it all. There was order, it was fun, and there was actually community storytelling and cooperation. What's left now is just spite between a split community.

People were mature and did things in the spirit of role-play. Now, there are too many people with agendas that do not pertain to stories and ensuring a good time for all.

+1

edit because i got quotes wrong All these sins disguised as blessings

17-Jun-2019 00:42:48 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 00:45:57 by Hazbollah

Nov

2018

Lord Pyro I

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HC Tervuren said :
Ridaku it's interesting seeing you speak of the current "disaster" as you call it from a seemingly third-person perspective, like an outside party uninvolved.

Regardless, the entire point you make about roleplay being dead, smashed, destroyed and the remains burned is specifically caused by issues like the one you and two others have created. Rule breaking and ignoring the reaction as best as you can is the problem. Please realize this.

I have no problems accepting my own flaws in the community and have gone over them plentifully, but I would also like for others to do the same and understand the turmoil they cause by their actions.

1. I've was in Kandarin for several months and have seen in person the general level of activity. There was I admit some RP, in so much as I personally set up RP events and invited non kandarin rpers to populate them. As gale vekon was quitting he and his friends stated themselves that w42 rp is dead. I don't entirely agree with that but I can certainly understand why everyone within the kandarin "bubble" would think that.

2. Rule breaking is the issue, I accept that. One that we are resolving by removing you and your group from any position that gives you the oppotunity to continue doing so as you have done for the past... Well let's just say 5 years minimum?

3. You have not yet come close to admitting to your flaws on this server and frankly I personally will never accept you as a roleplayer until that happens. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

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17-Jun-2019 01:31:22

Siberys

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The rant thread I wish I could have made.

Hazbollah said :
Sonicteej said :

Nothing has been resolved on the forums (or the community at large, as far as I can tell) in a long, long time and I think it's because people refuse to see themselves as part of the problem.

Some of you would do well to read this and have a little moment of self reflection.

Agreed.

Vekon said :
There is nothing inherently wrong with the PoK system. There never was. It's worked just fine for actual years nearing a decade, and problems like the ones we have now simply did not exist. Issues sprung up, but as a community things like that are inevitable; they were always small scale and worked out for the spirit of RP.

I disagree with a good part of RiDaku's response to you, but I do agree that there have always been problems. Off the top of my head:

- Russia vs. Toner, which devolved into a screaming match by the end of that.
- Land claims thread, which eventually evolved into needing to arbitrate community-wide debates.
- New Haven and the Kinshra refused to interact with each other for some time due to OOC problems between leaders (running trend for much of 42's history).
- Misthalin refusing to interact with outside groups if they threatened their vision.
- Nat's Asgarnia, where members and leadership received threats of physical violence for IC actions.
- The first double Kandarin issue.

Vekon said :
On top of that, there are some serious problems regarding several individuals in the community. Manipulating, peer-pressure, and individuals being strung along by others in the goal to be the end all be all of 42.

Well, that sounds awfully familiar. "Legacy. What is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see."

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17-Jun-2019 02:44:25

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