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Greyson Val

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So... I think I have an example we should all look at quick.
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- A new idea is posted. A solid one, in my opinion. So we're clear on my stance.

- If you support it, please post. If you don't, you are not allowed to post here. We know the issues you'll bring up.

(This is all short hand, not the actual post.)

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So, let's take a look for a minute here.

Judging support for an interesting topic. Can't allow disagreements because (I believe this entirely too.) it will devolve into crap talking, and all that horrible shit.


.... Why???!!!!?! Y U DO THIS?


The issue is how we handle each other. I don't care how much we change the IC part, we're ignoring a huge issue of just... being shitty at talking with each other. And I see it from both sides, people are going to derail, insult and be petty.

To prevent that, we kind of just... shut entire chances of any communication off. Which isolates a number of people. And creates this shit show of a whirlpool leading to more bullshittery.

AND SO WE'RE CLEAR. THIS ISN'T A DIG AT AN OT. PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AT YOUR OWN PERIL.

It's hopefully to show a big issue (the biggest imo) that eats at every damn topic on this board. Bickering, shitposting, insults. So much, folks have to come in and shut down any form of conversation that may cause discussion for fear of it becoming shitpostfest.

Half of the problems 42 has gained, wouldn't of ever happened if people could talk, and just let petty crap go. More so when it's nitpicking at crap that has no bearing on RP except it bothers that one individual.

Oops.

09-Nov-2019 17:34:07

Nov 2018

Lord Pyro I

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Wouldn't it be nice if we could all be nice to each other? I'm not saying I disagree but it kind of comes under the "where the houses are made of gingerbread" category. It's a nice idea but an unrealistic goal.

More sensible (in my opinion) would be an agreed upon set of rules, a form of arbitration that all sides can accept and a reasonable punishment for rulebreakers. And none of that is an attempt to drag anyone over hot coals. It's just the basic fundamentals that any community needs in order to not descend into... Well into W42 quite frankly.

We are not children any more and it is time for some of the older members of this community to step up and put some systems in place if a large thriving community on W42 is what you all want. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

#WarIsComing

10-Nov-2019 19:18:53

Waychaeology

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This thread is starting to go really off-topic. Roleplay what you want, and don't if you're not having fun. "But we can fight."

"Then we fight."

10-Nov-2019 20:03:18

Vekon

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Greyson Val said :
Half of the problems 42 has gained, wouldn't of ever happened if people could talk, and just let petty crap go. More so when it's nitpicking at crap that has no bearing on RP except it bothers that one individual.
I mean, sure. But at the end of the day I think we all need to acknowledge certain facts: in the real world, there are some seriously broken, malicious, manipulative people who are mentally troubled. Such problems can't be solved with "just be nice!", can they?

Communities like ours aren't immune to those types of people. We've a few excellent examples. The only difference is that their fixation is 42; it's likely all they have going on. Obviously we can't say names here, but I'm certain that most people that read this have a particular few people come to their minds. The unfortunate part is that just pretending they don't exist/blacklisting doesn't quite work, because this little subset is to good at bringing people, however few it may be, to "their" side because of some "common enemy" mentality or straight up manipulation.

KANDAR VICTA

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HouseVekon

10-Nov-2019 22:26:28

Nov 2018

Lord Pyro I

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Vekon said :
Greyson Val said :
Half of the problems 42 has gained, wouldn't of ever happened if people could talk, and just let petty crap go. More so when it's nitpicking at crap that has no bearing on RP except it bothers that one individual.
I mean, sure. But at the end of the day I think we all need to acknowledge certain facts: in the real world, there are some seriously broken, malicious, manipulative people who are mentally troubled. Such problems can't be solved with "just be nice!", can they?

Communities like ours aren't immune to those types of people. We've a few excellent examples. The only difference is that their fixation is 42; it's likely all they have going on. Obviously we can't say names here, but I'm certain that most people that read this have a particular few people come to their minds. The unfortunate part is that just pretending they don't exist/blacklisting doesn't quite work, because this little subset is to good at bringing people, however few it may be, to "their" side because of some "common enemy" mentality or straight up manipulation.

So skillfully put that I might almost believe all of it, instead of just most of it.

That there are some truly awful people on w42 is undeniable of course. That simply placing some individual blacklist on them doesn't work is entirely agreed. But as usual your words are intended to take the real problem and accuse it of someone... how do I put this? Someone other than the guy that lead a vast, inactive empire made up of people with infinite arrogance, a total disregard for the rules and in too many cases a set of charmingly alt-right opinions? "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

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10-Nov-2019 22:48:57

Vekon

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Lord Pyro I said :
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And then you have people that are literally the most infamous on the server, known for trolling, flaming, and rule-breaking and deceit, who continuously try to act as though they've earned some sort of moral high ground. A person who has historically been constantly ignored and ridiculed even after receiving a third, forth, and fifth chance by the rest of the community. And then have the audacity to DM someone on discord to harass them after they post on the forums.

Get a grip.

KANDAR VICTA

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HouseVekon

10-Nov-2019 22:57:55

Nov 2018

Lord Pyro I

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Vekon said :
Lord Pyro I said :
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And then you have people that are literally the most infamous on the server, known for trolling, flaming, and rule-breaking and deceit, who continuously try to act as though they've earned some sort of moral high ground. A person who has historically been constantly ignored and ridiculed even after receiving a third, forth, and fifth chance by the rest of the community. And then have the audacity to DM someone on discord to harass them after they post on the forums.

Get a grip.

And yet perhaps that is in and of itself only a symptom of just how broken this community has become. When the rulebreakers started running the asylum such that the most innocent of people were suddenly treated as the very worst kind of criminal, though of course none of the vague half truths or accusations ever stood up to serious examination.

That sort of person that did such things might act as if they gave others "chances" when really they didn't do anything to require them. That sort of person might treat an attempt to take this discussion off this thread and into direct messages as audacious, as if they thought of themselves as some sort of higher being too important to be contacted directly by this other lesser person (though the courtesy would never be shown in both directions of course).

The Kandar Empire and Zamorak's Union are both relics of the past. Leave W42 to do it's own thing and stop trying to attack groups that honestly have no interest in you any more. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

#WarIsComing

11-Nov-2019 08:31:46

SaePls

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I feel you, fam. My RP/friend circle was small because if this. There isn't much we can.do, though. That is internal growth/maturity that time can only grow and for some they'll never reach it out of choice. For now, cut out the toxicity (block, remove, whatever) and focus on the people that make you happy and reflect the type of community you'd like to see in the way you interact. I know how frustrating it can be but getting caught up in all the bullshit is just gonna drag you down. Good luck.

11-Nov-2019 14:52:30

Jul 2008

Nathmatics

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SaePls said :
I feel you, fam. My RP/friend circle was small because if this. There isn't much we can.do, though. That is internal growth/maturity that time can only grow and for some they'll never reach it out of choice. For now, cut out the toxicity (block, remove, whatever) and focus on the people that make you happy and reflect the type of community you'd like to see in the way you interact. I know how frustrating it can be but getting caught up in all the bullshit is just gonna drag you down. Good luck.

Thing is I find it sad that we have to just separate ourselves into splinter cells just because we cannot grow up and agree on how things occur/ed or simply because the person has a history of being "misunderstood."

Why not instead try to just understand where they're coming from and try to work together ? Obviously if they're not gonna listen, we do have blacklists/ignore.

"Kumbaya bitch" me all you want, I would've expected this sort of stuff from early teenagers, when in fact the earlier iterations were somewhat more agreeable and mature for everybody than today, where most of us bicker, or the few whom have 'retired' as it were have either left because of work, got bored, or generally lead more fulfilling lives doing literally anything else.

This is a game, it's meant to be fun , naturally if you're not having fun you won't play it, and I'm starting to get to that breaking point again.

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12-Nov-2019 16:39:59

Nov 2018

Lord Pyro I

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Well to put it simply nath I think we didn't do anything all that bad when we were younger. Whereas there are probably plenty of adults you would never want to associate with. Everyone who supports Trump comes to mind as an obvious example. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

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12-Nov-2019 22:05:48

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