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Megycal said :
... I think you missed the word
might
in my post. Its a very important word because unless you get tested every day you have no way of knowing if you are an asymptomatic carrier or not. I did not say everyone without symptoms was a carrier and infecting other people.
Unless the proof people have of not being sick is a recent accurate negative test then there is always the
possibility
of someone being an asymptomatic carrier. That's a scientific fact even if you don't want to recognise it as such.

edit to add: My area is moving into tier 4 from midnight. Am I going to stick to the rules? Yes, of course I will. I didn't miss the first word 'might' but I read afterwards how easily it's been said that people are 'careless' / 'thoughtless' and after the second 'might' people are held responsible for others to 'become very ill' / 'or die'. These are just assumptions without proof.
You finish it off with 'With attitudes like theirs its an uphill struggle'.
I did hear such assumptions, as did others, for 9 months in a row and nothing has proven it to be that scenario, it all are assumptions used to scaremonger people, aggressively putting the blame on a group of people who are just free of disease/health issues.

30-Dec-2020 19:54:00

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NexOrigin said :
If the previous lockdowns worked, then why are they having another one?

If the previous lockdowns didn't work, then why are they having another one?

You can look at Michigan's numbers as proof. Both times we brought that spike in cases down. It sucks quite a bit, but it does work.

I don't think I've met anyone who isn't sick of all of this, but what is the alternative because I also don't know anyone who doesn't personally know someone who almost died or did die from COVID. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

30-Dec-2020 20:11:40

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However, I do wonder, why do people lack to make their voice be heard for the use of 'vitamine D' which several scientists/medical scientists have research results about, about the postive effects of these vitamins fighting covid-19, reducing the number of infections/deaths, not to be misinterpret that I claim it to be prevention or medicine?

As with washing your hands and put a mask on, this would actually help in reducing the devastating effects of covid-19.

Yet these are ignored.

Covid-19 strikes the hardest in periods where human health is slightly more vulnerable for diseases due to the lack of vitamins.
It is common knowledge that the body produces not enough vitamines making people an easier target for virusses, yet these signs are ignored, but so easily to be administered for everybody.
As a kid I learned that in months with an 'R' we used to administer ourselves vitamines to stay healthy and not becoming receptive to viruses/diseases.

Nobody on the 'National Television' gets 'Health Advice' about how to stay healthy with common products, common products we all could buy in a shop, like good vegetables/fruits/vitamins/health drinks etc. etc.

No of course not, we have to be scaremongered/threatened to believe to be tested day after day, week after week, month after month and we need to believe that there is a 'holy medicine', a medicine that can save us only, instead of living a healthy life, as how we used to learn that by heart when we were kids.

30-Dec-2020 20:15:29

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2_Tron said :
However, I do wonder, why do people lack to make their voice be heard for the use of 'vitamine D' which several scientists/medical scientists have research results about, about the postive effects of these vitamins fighting covid-19, reducing the number of infections/deaths, not to be misinterpret that I claim it to be prevention or medicine? Yeah, I wish people would pay more attention. I mean, even if you very specifically point out evidence to support the lack of Vitamin D causing issues, people just seem to ignore it, because, well, the MSM hasn't told them to think about it yet:
NexOrigin said :
That's an interesting rabbit hole to dive into.


Even when all the evidence points away from covid, and directly to symptoms caused by a lack of vitamin D, people still just ignore it and point back to covid, because "official sources" haven't told them about it.

You can give them facts, such as over 80% of people of people with covid have a vitamin D deficiency, the effects of vitamin D deficiencies on the immune system, the effects on your mental health, and physical health. But their eyes still glaze over with that "it sounds like a conspiracy theory to me" look on their faces, because the MSM hasn't told them what to think about it yet.

Of course, the reason the MSM won't a talk about it is pretty simple; they're not going to admit that the lockdowns may be having serious physical/mental side effects on the population. That would compromise the narrative. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

30-Dec-2020 21:10:01 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2020 21:10:57 by NexOrigin

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Tuffty said :
Lockdowns do work.

The people who take no notice of them are idiots.

Right now some parts of the UK are in T4 meaning stay home and don't go anywhere. Did they listen. No they did not. 100's of cars full of people from T4 locations traveling to Wales to see the beauty spots were turned away and told to get back home by the Police. Total idiots who should be fined £10,000 each.

If people keep ignoring all the advice to stay at home we will not get rid of this bugger for years. It's these idiots who are spreading it all over the World.

Stay home and save lives including your own and your family. Selfish pratts. Still I do understand your response but isn't it easier for the police force to help people who will go outdoors, outdoors in pairs to stay 100 meters apart or more, and let them enjoy outdoors?
This has a far greater positive effect on people, people being more receptive to good or better behavior rather than chasing them down like cattle pushing them back home in confinement.

30-Dec-2020 21:23:17

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Dong U Dead said :
NexOrigin said :
Tuffty said :
Lockdowns do work. Apparently they don't, otherwise you wouldn't be having another, would you? :P
Yes they do work if done properly. Oh, you mean like how socialism works, it's just that no one has done it right yet? :D I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

30-Dec-2020 21:58:24

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The goal of the lockdown was to not overwhelm the hospitals. In many places, including my own state, that goal was accomplished.

And, now that there is a vaccine herd immunity can be achieved without killing off a substantial portion of the population. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

30-Dec-2020 22:01:52

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