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Dadizar said :

Where is the evidence that mental health issues are caused by the lockdowns and not the horrors of the pandemics itself?
Every time a certain statistic is posted on this thread, it is quickly removed, followed by a three day forum ban.

You're welcome to guess what that statistic entails, yet keep it to yourself.

Dadizar said :

Perhaps people that do not want to take a vaccine, social distance, or wear a mask, should put their money (lives) where there mouth is and sign a waiver refusing medical treatment if they should become infected?
That could be a reasonable request.

Dadizar said :

After all, they only have a 1 in 40 chance of not surviving.
That number would be a 1/99.8 chance of not surviving where I'm from. Another renegade Rat-Lord from the Master pond of scum.

22-Nov-2020 09:10:36

FiFi LaFeles

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Inspire you said :
I wonder if lock-downs will be imposed on those that refuse the vaccine?

Will certain stores, public transport, education systems & entertainment venues bar non-vaccinated people to enter or partake?


That is so unlikely to happen I can't imagine why you'd mention it, other than to attempt to arouse unease and dissatisfaction.

I, for one, would strongly oppose any such move along those lines .... provided I have had a vaccination which is proven to make it pretty certain I won't catch the disease and that others who want the vaccine have been able to access it, then I'd be happy to let the foolish antivaxxers mingle freely with each other and around me.

It wouldn't be a huge danger to me and others that have taken the simple step of vaccination and would afford the malcontents the freedom to infect each other at will and risk severe illness and death on themselves and like-minded individuals. They are welcome to reap what they sow.

What I can see potentially happening, in due course, is that individuals will be required to provide proof that they have been vaccinated before entering a country other than their own.

Currently the UK advise certain inoculations before travelling to certain countries - malaria, diphtheria, hepatitis, meningitis, rabies etc. Given the havoc Covid has wrought it would come as no surprise if some countries insisted upon proof of vaccination before allowing a foreign traveller into their country.
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22-Nov-2020 10:17:47

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FiFi LaFeles said :

That is so unlikely to happen I can't imagine why you'd mention it, other than to attempt to arouse unease and dissatisfaction.
Well the vaccination statistics are only showing a 90% resistance at best so far.
FiFi LaFeles said :

Currently the UK advise certain inoculations before travelling to certain countries - malaria, diphtheria, hepatitis, meningitis, rabies etc. Given the havoc Covid has wrought it would come as no surprise if some countries insisted upon proof of vaccination before allowing a foreign traveller into their country.
Do you know what happened to Ebola?

I just mention it due to you having such a well rounded knowledge of many other diseases/viruses. Another renegade Rat-Lord from the Master pond of scum.

22-Nov-2020 10:21:38

FiFi LaFeles

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I have never claimed to have well rounded knowledge of many other diseases/viruses?

It's common knowledge (in the UK) that the Govt recommend vaccination against certain diseases prior to travelling to certain countries. It has been thus for many decades and the information relating to this is available on many websites including the NHS site.

Indeed, Saudi Arabia insist on proof of vaccination against Meningococcal meningitis before allowing travellers into certain areas of their country. It's no great stretch of logic to foresee the potential for proof of Covid inoculation to be required by some other countries. In fact, I think it would be sensible.

I have no idea what 'happened' to Ebola since it's never been a problem in this country (or most other countries that I'm aware of). If you are curious about Ebola you can do a web search on it, no doubt.

And, actually, the latest Covid vaccine claims that I see are talking about 95%+ effective protection. (With the exception of the Russian version but I don't live in Russia so am unlikely to receive this version). I fully intend to couple this with continued public facemask wearing and careful, frequent hand sanitising.

Whatever way you want to belittle or minimise the benefits that vaccination will have (for whatever bizarre reasons of your own) - it will be a massive aid to getting sickness and deaths down.
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22-Nov-2020 10:41:52

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FiFi LaFeles said :

Indeed, Saudi Arabia insist on proof of vaccination against Meningococcal meningitis before allowing travellers into certain areas of their country.
I was actually unaware there was a vaccine for Meningococcal, however I have seen the affects of what it can do & how quickly it can take over the body, which in many cases leads to amputation.


FiFi LaFeles said :

Whatever way you want to belittle or minimise the benefits that vaccination will have (for whatever bizarre reasons of your own) - it will be a massive aid to getting sickness and deaths down.

Look all I've wanted to state from the very beginning of this thread is there will always be side-effects to vaccines & that people should have an understand of the Risk they're taking no matter how minute it may be.

The media glamorises vaccines as if they're nothing more than eating a handful of smarties / M & M's, yet there's some nasty ingredients that go into vaccines in order to kill any bacteria growth.

I read labels all the time, there's nothing wrong with doing that when shopping, now is there?

So why should this be any different with vaccines.

To be honest, I'd actually get a Meningococcal vaccine without a second thought, as I've seen what it can inflict onto the human body.

Yet Covid, I'm still not all that convinced that it isn't anything more than a bad flu. Another renegade Rat-Lord from the Master pond of scum.

22-Nov-2020 11:33:14

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Stoat King said :
What nasty ingredients are you talking about, just out of interest?
What kills the bacteria growth in vaccines. Thiomersal.

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What about peoples' beliefs however, ie vegans ... should they have a choice in being vaccinated?

https://biomarketinsights.com/amyris-provide-bio-alternative-to-shark-ingredients-for-key-vaccines-including-covid-19/

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/coronavirus-vaccine-testing-horseshoe-crabs/ Another renegade Rat-Lord from the Master pond of scum.

22-Nov-2020 11:51:45

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Inspire you said :
Stoat King said :
What nasty ingredients are you talking about, just out of interest?
What kills the bacteria growth in vaccines. Thiomersal.

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What about peoples' beliefs however, ie vegans ... should they have a choice in being vaccinated?

https://biomarketinsights.com/amyris-provide-bio-alternative-to-shark-ingredients-for-key-vaccines-including-covid-19/

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/coronavirus-vaccine-testing-horseshoe-crabs/ Why would there be antibacterials in a viral vaccination? The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are mRNA vaccines. Are eggs even used in their production? There is no live virus (or even dead virus) used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. The vaccines have to be stored at very cold temperatures. Is bacterial contamination even an issue?

It seems like a little knowledge, gleaned off of google searches, can be a dangerous thing. All the data on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be shared publicly in a couple weeks. I think i will wait until then to evaluate the fear mongering you seem to be attempting.
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22-Nov-2020 12:08:34

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Thiomersal is a poor example. It is considered safe in the amounts used and is present in few, if any vaccines nowadays - certainly in the UK.
The fact that some vaccines once used a safe mercury compound is hardly justification for your scare-mongering.
Well, 'attempts at scare-mongering'. Noone in here gives a toss about your obvious bullshit.
What your motives are is a mystery I dont want solved.

22-Nov-2020 12:16:54 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2020 12:17:42 by Stoat King

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Dadizar said :
Why would there be antibacterials in a viral vaccination? The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are mRNA vaccines. Are eggs even used in their production? There is no live virus (or even dead virus) used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. The vaccines have to be stored at very cold temperatures. Is bacterial contamination even an issue?
I'm not sure either, yet perhaps others could add insight. Much of this hasn't been discussed at all within this thread.
Dadizar said :

All the data on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be shared publicly in a couple weeks.
True. Another renegade Rat-Lord from the Master pond of scum.

22-Nov-2020 12:33:08

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