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NexOrigin

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Jeremy Cheng said :
"I feel vaccines, not just the Covid-19 ones are often rushed these days to get them on the market asap. They, who ever they are don't care about severe side effects or even death - if it's to severe or causes death they will put a stop to it, get the next vaccine out and so on and so forth..."

I don't care how rushed the vaccine is, sign me up. I can handle any side effects!
Do you know what the side effects can include?
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

28-Dec-2020 11:36:17

Averia Light

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Jeremy Cheng said :
"I feel vaccines, not just the Covid-19 ones are often rushed these days to get them on the market asap. They, who ever they are don't care about severe side effects or even death - if it's to severe or causes death they will put a stop to it, get the next vaccine out and so on and so forth..."

I don't care how rushed the vaccine is, sign me up. I can handle any side effects!


That is wonderful, but I hope they have a clause where people with shellfish allergies don't have to get it.

I also can't get the pertussis shots, because I have a terrible reaction to them. Herd immunity helps me there and I hope it can help me here as well.
And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

28-Dec-2020 12:30:47 - Last edited on 28-Dec-2020 12:37:45 by Averia Light

Dong U Dead

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NexOrigin said :
Jeremy Cheng said :
"I feel vaccines, not just the Covid-19 ones are often rushed these days to get them on the market asap. They, who ever they are don't care about severe side effects or even death - if it's to severe or causes death they will put a stop to it, get the next vaccine out and so on and so forth..."

I don't care how rushed the vaccine is, sign me up. I can handle any side effects!
Do you know what the side effects can include?

Each vaccine will have its own side effects, not all people will be effected by its side effects.
If fat means flavour then I'm ******* delicious!

29-Dec-2020 03:03:15

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Dong U Dead said :
NexOrigin said :
Jeremy Cheng said :
"I feel vaccines, not just the Covid-19 ones are often rushed these days to get them on the market asap. They, who ever they are don't care about severe side effects or even death - if it's to severe or causes death they will put a stop to it, get the next vaccine out and so on and so forth..."

I don't care how rushed the vaccine is, sign me up. I can handle any side effects!
Do you know what the side effects can include?

Each vaccine will have its own side effects, not all people will be effected by its side effects.
True, very true, and since there's hardly any touchable evidence, or there are databases full with evidence of the past, we have to be very very carefull as there's no knowledge how people will respond or won't respond when getting a vaccine.

The danger of allergy is is that nobody knows how they react, and after that, how allergic reactions can be stopped with the counter-measures that are available right now.

A dramatic side-effect is, not every medical worker/scientist/doctor/specialist is very experienced in recognizing side-effects so adults/parents have to watch closely what happens and write it down for a later stadium of figuring out what happened and what caused the side-effect. For people with an allergy it means getting back to the beginning of ascertain ones allergy and see what effects this vaccine has, of course I hope you do will know which vaccin you have gotten in the first place.

29-Dec-2020 13:21:51

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These vaccines are hardly tested in the real world and all people vaccinated are now becoming 'test-subjects' for a very long period with all side-effects possible one can think of.
Risks of death are 'calculable' risks, which means you will become a number and numbers do offer input for probabilism which offers a reasonable number of deaths to not be crossed before the scientific world will take action into investigating 'what does happen/goes wrong'.

How many deceased individuals have had an autopsy to determine the real cause of death, at the moment?
Or is there hardly been done any effort to do an autopsy, easier said 'the person died of covid-19'?

29-Dec-2020 13:26:30

NexOrigin

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Inspire you said :
Does anyone know the longest it has taken for a side effect to present itself in medicine?
Are we talking specifically about vaccinations? Or just "medicine" in general? And are you talking about immediate side effects such as allergic reactions, difficulty breathing, etc? Or are you asking about long term effects, such as diabetes?
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

29-Dec-2020 17:26:14

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The UK has surpassed 50,000 new cases in a single day, and that isn't even including the expected spike from the holiday period. Hospitalisations are rising sharply. Prepared for a week of inadequate action followed by another national lockdown which will last longer than it would were it to be put in place right now. Low on bank space? Click here .

30-Dec-2020 06:17:47

Megycal
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NexOrigin said :
If the previous lockdowns worked, then why are they having another one?

If the previous lockdowns didn't work, then why are they having another one?


The lockdowns did work in that the daily case rate dropped. They aren't able to get rid of the virus entirely due to untested asymptomatic people in the population. However lockdowns slow the spread by flattening the curve. The point is to prevent hospitals being overwhelmed by covid patients. Once the daily infection rate drops then a loosening of restrictions is intended to help the economy. Imo often loosened a bit too soon and too much. Its a balancing act. But I do agree that the UK is too slow in implementing lockdowns.

But no matter what the regulations say there are people who have no sense of social responsibility. They don't care that even if they're OK they might be an asymptomatic carrier. They don't care or even give a thought to the fact they might pass the infection on to someone who will become very ill and could die. With attitudes like theirs its an uphill struggle to bring the infection rate under control.

30-Dec-2020 11:21:30

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