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Megycal said :
And this is why everyone should wear masks, jic. If someone cannot wear a mask for medical reasons then they could try and wear one of those transparent face shields which, although not as good, will help a bit
edit to add: I say try and wear one because there are various types and some don't look very comfortable How often do you spit into someone's mouth or eyes?

How often do other people spit into your mouth or eyes? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

17-Feb-2021 14:09:53

17-Feb-2021 14:19:13

Jenesiis said :
NexOrigin said :
Megycal said :
And this is why everyone should wear masks, jic. If someone cannot wear a mask for medical reasons then they could try and wear one of those transparent face shields which, although not as good, will help a bit
edit to add: I say try and wear one because there are various types and some don't look very comfortable How often do you spit into someone's mouth or eyes?

How often do other people spit into your mouth or eyes?

1) Every time you cough or sneeze near to someone else when you are not wearing facial protection

2) Every time someone else near to you coughs and sneezes without wearing facial protection So why does everyone have to wear a mask then?

You're supposed to sneeze or cough into your elbow, or a tissue, etc.

Shouldn't tissues and elbows be mandatory instead of masks?


And how does asymptomatic transmission work then? They're not coughing or sneezing, as they have no symptoms. So how are they spreading the virus?


At some point, the general public is going to have to accept the science, and accept the fact that aerosolized transmission is probably the primary source of transmission. If masks worked, the mask mandates would be stopping the spread. But they don't. They might help slow it down a bit, preventing someone from spitting into your mouth or eyes, but, in the end, the virus is going to make out of that mask as an aerosolized vapor, and can float in the air for hours.

This is why the whole "I protect you, you protect me" ideology doesn't work. This is why I have repeatedly promoted those who are in high risk categories take the steps to protect themselves, not others. Don't rely on others to protect you. Protect yourself. Get proper masks that actually work, such as N95 or equivalent and don't forget to protect your eyes. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

17-Feb-2021 14:48:18

Joel said :
NexOrigin said :
So long as there are numbers that can be used to justify restrictions, there will be restrictions. Even if those numbers aren't accurate or have been manipulated. Yes, but when I asked you the question, I worded it very specifically. I asked you, past the point at which vaccines achieve what they aim to achieve, do you think we'll continue to see lockdowns? Not now, not in a few months, but after a time when lets say 90-100% of the population has been vaccinated. My answer remains exactly the same. It doesn't matter if you agree with my answer or not, or if it's not the answer to the loaded question that you were expecting, that is my answer, and that is how I feel.

Joel said :
Presumably, at this point in time (perhaps thats late 2021, perhaps its early 2022, remains to be seen), restrictions would ease or be lifted entirely, there'll come a point where the pandemic is no longer declared and then the obvious thing to assume is that these measures (specifically the lockdowns) will end. Or do you think, at this time, we'll still see lockdown measures, just because... I don't know... because of some other non-pandemic related reason? That's what I'm trying to draw out of you, purely based on how you've made your remarks appear on more than one occasion. My answer STILL remains the same; So long as there are numbers that can be used to justify restrictions, there will be restrictions. Even if those numbers aren't accurate or have been manipulated.


Do you want to ask it a bunch of other ways? Maybe ask it as a multiple choice question? My answer will still be exactly the same. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

17-Feb-2021 15:13:44

Miles Prower said :
NexOrigin said :
They might help slow it down a bit

Congratulations on the epiphany. Standing in front of a moving bus may slow down the bus a bit as well too. Everything is relative. Congratulations on your ignorance. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

17-Feb-2021 15:16:30 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2021 15:27:53 by NexOrigin