Joel
said
:
When vaccine rollout really starts ramping up and gets to a good point to achieve what they set out to achieve, do you think we'll see continue to see lockdowns despite any effectiveness of the vaccine? It should be a yes or a no answer. If its further nuanced then just say so "Yes/No but its nuanced and dips into politics" - I'm not trying to bait you into some political discussion here, just trying to gauge (in simple terms) where you stand on it. We seem to be adults here able to be a little responsible. So long as there are numbers that can be used to justify restrictions, there will be restrictions. Even if those numbers aren't accurate or have been manipulated.
Joel said :
I don't know about Quebec but Ontario for example is now
Don't you see the contradiction in logic between the two provinces?
One of them says "the cases have dropped, we're ending the restrictions" and the other says "the cases have dropped, we're extending the restrictions".
They can't both be right, and they can't both be based on science. One of them has to be wrong.
And then there's the question of "why" the case are dropping.
Less testing = less cases. "underestimating" due to "data migration" = less cases.
When vaccine rollout really starts ramping up and gets to a good point to achieve what they set out to achieve, do you think we'll see continue to see lockdowns despite any effectiveness of the vaccine? It should be a yes or a no answer. If its further nuanced then just say so "Yes/No but its nuanced and dips into politics" - I'm not trying to bait you into some political discussion here, just trying to gauge (in simple terms) where you stand on it. We seem to be adults here able to be a little responsible. So long as there are numbers that can be used to justify restrictions, there will be restrictions. Even if those numbers aren't accurate or have been manipulated.
Joel said :
I don't know about Quebec but Ontario for example is now
coming out of provincial lockdown since our case numbers have dropped
a fair amount so we're switching back to the more regional framework again. So they're not keeping us in lockdown any longer than is necessary, although that's not without its criticism.
That's the
same logic
that Quebec is using to
extend the curfew
. The curfew was in place, and the case numbers have dropped, so that means the curfew is working, therefore the curfew is being extended.
Don't you see the contradiction in logic between the two provinces?
One of them says "the cases have dropped, we're ending the restrictions" and the other says "the cases have dropped, we're extending the restrictions".
They can't both be right, and they can't both be based on science. One of them has to be wrong.
And then there's the question of "why" the case are dropping.
Less testing = less cases. "underestimating" due to "data migration" = less cases.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-reports-fewer-than-1-000-new-covid-19-infections-but-toronto-cases-continue-to-fluctuate-due-to-ongoing-data-migration-1.5308528
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