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Joel
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NexOrigin said :
If your logic is "get a vaccine to end the lockdowns" it's equally important to note that the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. Ah yes, I forget, there's bigger things at play here that mean we'll never experience true freedom again and will forever remain in lockdown. Are you fear mongering now?
I didn't say that, did I?
I said the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. The CDC, various governments, etc., have all said the exact same thing. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean an to the restrictions and regulations. It's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's literally what those in charge have been saying.
Do I need to cite a bunch of articles stating that claim? If you need citations, just ask, and I'll provide them. I'm not here making claims that I can't substantiate. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
NexOrigin said :
If your logic is "get a vaccine to end the lockdowns" it's equally important to note that the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. Ah yes, I forget, there's bigger things at play here that mean we'll never experience true freedom again and will forever remain in lockdown. Are you fear mongering now?
I didn't say that, did I?
I said the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. The CDC, various governments, etc., have all said the exact same thing. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean an to the restrictions and regulations. It's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's literally what those in charge have been saying.
Do I need to cite a bunch of articles stating that claim? If you need citations, just ask, and I'll provide them. I'm not here making claims that I can't substantiate. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 16:21:54
Jenesiis
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Sadly not so for the rest of us for whom it may present a clear and present danger And this is why I'm happy that your fears have been placated by getting the vaccine. It was an honest expression. I'm honestly happy that you feel less stressed out now.
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
Sadly not so for the rest of us for whom it may present a clear and present danger And this is why I'm happy that your fears have been placated by getting the vaccine. It was an honest expression. I'm honestly happy that you feel less stressed out now.
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 16:23:53
NexOrigin
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Joel said :
NexOrigin said :
If your logic is "get a vaccine to end the lockdowns" it's equally important to note that the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. Ah yes, I forget, there's bigger things at play here that mean we'll never experience true freedom again and will forever remain in lockdown. Are you fear mongering now?
I didn't say that, did I?
I said the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. The CDC, various governments, etc., have all said the exact same thing. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean an to the restrictions and regulations. It's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's literally what those in charge have been saying.
Do I need to cite a bunch of articles stating that claim? If you need citations, just ask, and I'll provide them. I'm not here making claims that I can't substantiate. Yet, you are being misleading to push your agenda, as usual.
We understand the propaganda techniques.
Of course an individual person getting vaccinated will not end lockdowns. When enough people are vaccinated, life will get back to normal and you will need another cause to champion.
Joel said :
NexOrigin said :
If your logic is "get a vaccine to end the lockdowns" it's equally important to note that the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. Ah yes, I forget, there's bigger things at play here that mean we'll never experience true freedom again and will forever remain in lockdown. Are you fear mongering now?
I didn't say that, did I?
I said the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. The CDC, various governments, etc., have all said the exact same thing. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean an to the restrictions and regulations. It's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's literally what those in charge have been saying.
Do I need to cite a bunch of articles stating that claim? If you need citations, just ask, and I'll provide them. I'm not here making claims that I can't substantiate. Yet, you are being misleading to push your agenda, as usual.
We understand the propaganda techniques.
Of course an individual person getting vaccinated will not end lockdowns. When enough people are vaccinated, life will get back to normal and you will need another cause to champion.
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16-Feb-2021 16:28:36
NexOrigin
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Jenesiis said :
Sadly not so for the rest of us for whom it may present a clear and present danger And this is why I'm happy that your fears have been placated by getting the vaccine. It was an honest expression. I'm honestly happy that you feel less stressed out now.
And i am happy for her starting to get protection from the virus and careless people who do not care about others.
Jenesiis said :
Sadly not so for the rest of us for whom it may present a clear and present danger And this is why I'm happy that your fears have been placated by getting the vaccine. It was an honest expression. I'm honestly happy that you feel less stressed out now.
And i am happy for her starting to get protection from the virus and careless people who do not care about others.
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What love we've given, we'll have forever. What love we fail to give, will be lost for all eternity. - Leo Buscaglia
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16-Feb-2021 16:31:11
NexOrigin
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Are you fear mongering now?
I didn't say that, did I?
I said the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. The CDC, various governments, etc., have all said the exact same thing. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean an to the restrictions and regulations. It's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's literally what those in charge have been saying.
Do I need to cite a bunch of articles stating that claim? If you need citations, just ask, and I'll provide them. I'm not here making claims that I can't substantiate.
Sure, fear-mongering on fear-mongering
I think the rest of my post makes clear it was a sarcastic remark
Yeah, they've said such remarks but I think you're trying to insinuate certain things that there's no evidence for. All of the public health bodies who have made such remarks have done so to make clear that an individual alone being vaccinated doesn't instantly lift their restrictions personally.
There doesn't seem to be a hard number of vaccinations that result in re-opening. E.g everything will instantly re-open the moment 80% of the population has been vaccinated.
It's probably going to be gradual and based on how things go. The intent behind the vaccine is to lesser the seriousness of the symptoms people experience. Given that is successful which hopefully it is, there's no reason at that point in time to suggest or think the public health measures will continue (whether it be an instant relaxation or gradual) and to suggest or insinuate any other intent is more speculation and then starts dipping into being conspiratorial.
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Are you fear mongering now?
I didn't say that, did I?
I said the lockdowns won't end just because people get the vaccine. The CDC, various governments, etc., have all said the exact same thing. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean an to the restrictions and regulations. It's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's literally what those in charge have been saying.
Do I need to cite a bunch of articles stating that claim? If you need citations, just ask, and I'll provide them. I'm not here making claims that I can't substantiate.
Sure, fear-mongering on fear-mongering
I think the rest of my post makes clear it was a sarcastic remark
Yeah, they've said such remarks but I think you're trying to insinuate certain things that there's no evidence for. All of the public health bodies who have made such remarks have done so to make clear that an individual alone being vaccinated doesn't instantly lift their restrictions personally.
There doesn't seem to be a hard number of vaccinations that result in re-opening. E.g everything will instantly re-open the moment 80% of the population has been vaccinated.
It's probably going to be gradual and based on how things go. The intent behind the vaccine is to lesser the seriousness of the symptoms people experience. Given that is successful which hopefully it is, there's no reason at that point in time to suggest or think the public health measures will continue (whether it be an instant relaxation or gradual) and to suggest or insinuate any other intent is more speculation and then starts dipping into being conspiratorial.
Joel
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16-Feb-2021 16:31:26 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2021 16:32:13 by Joel
Dadizar
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Yet, you are being misleading to push your agenda, as usual. What agenda do you think I'm pushing, and what do you believe I'm being misleading about?
Joel said :
Yeah, they've said such remarks but I think you're trying to insinuate certain things that there's no evidence for. All of the public health bodies who have made such remarks have done so to make clear that an individual alone being vaccinated doesn't instantly lift their restrictions personally. You're literally repeating what I just said, in different words. The claims you say I'm "insinuating certain things" that have "no evidence for" are the claims that the CDC and others in charge are making, not me. They're the ones claiming that the vaccines won't end the lockdowns, not me. They're the ones pushing this with "no evidence", not me. Those are their claims, not mine.
Joel said :
There doesn't seem to be a hard number of vaccinations that result in re-opening. E.g everything will instantly re-open the moment 80% of the population has been vaccinated. Right, because the goal posts keep getting moved.
"Two weeks to slow the curve". Remember that?
Quebec is still under curfew, and it was only supposed to be "two weeks". That time came and passed, and they're still under curfew. They instituted the curfew because the claim was that the number of cases were going up. They extended the curfew because the claim was that the number of cases was going down. It doesn't seem to matter what the numbers say, the intent seems to be to extend the curfew, regardless of the impact or the lack of any scientific basis for the curfew. Whether the number of cases went up, or went down, the curfew would have been extended either way.
It's like they're giving people a false sense of hope, like "if the cases go down, we won't be under curfew anymore", when in reality, it didn't matter. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
Yet, you are being misleading to push your agenda, as usual. What agenda do you think I'm pushing, and what do you believe I'm being misleading about?
Joel said :
Yeah, they've said such remarks but I think you're trying to insinuate certain things that there's no evidence for. All of the public health bodies who have made such remarks have done so to make clear that an individual alone being vaccinated doesn't instantly lift their restrictions personally. You're literally repeating what I just said, in different words. The claims you say I'm "insinuating certain things" that have "no evidence for" are the claims that the CDC and others in charge are making, not me. They're the ones claiming that the vaccines won't end the lockdowns, not me. They're the ones pushing this with "no evidence", not me. Those are their claims, not mine.
Joel said :
There doesn't seem to be a hard number of vaccinations that result in re-opening. E.g everything will instantly re-open the moment 80% of the population has been vaccinated. Right, because the goal posts keep getting moved.
"Two weeks to slow the curve". Remember that?
Quebec is still under curfew, and it was only supposed to be "two weeks". That time came and passed, and they're still under curfew. They instituted the curfew because the claim was that the number of cases were going up. They extended the curfew because the claim was that the number of cases was going down. It doesn't seem to matter what the numbers say, the intent seems to be to extend the curfew, regardless of the impact or the lack of any scientific basis for the curfew. Whether the number of cases went up, or went down, the curfew would have been extended either way.
It's like they're giving people a false sense of hope, like "if the cases go down, we won't be under curfew anymore", when in reality, it didn't matter. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 16:47:16
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