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Joel
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Ontario for example is now coming out of provincial lockdown since our case numbers have dropped a fair amount Why have the numbers dropped? Do you know? Is it because there is less cases? Or is it because they're doing far less testing now than they were?
I mean, they went from being backlogged with 90,000 unverified tests per day (that's 90,000 above their 70,000 capacity), to only testing at half the capacity possible.
Statistically speaking, if you're only a third as many people as previously, the number of cases will decrease by that same 1/3 margin.
Joel said :
My one issue I have right now is how badly Canada is doing with vaccine rollout. It's terrible. Yeah, it's pretty messed up that they're now going to delay the second dose of vaccines for 90 days, instead of the 21 days recommended by the manufacturers. The claim is that there currently isn't enough vaccines for everyone to get a second dose, so they want to get a first dose to as many people as possible, while at the same time, sending vaccines that Canadian taxpayers have paid for to other countries.
Joel said :
But that said, you make sweeping statements such as "vaccines aren't going to end lockdowns" and rather than think realistically which is, yeah, until mostly everyone (or enough people) have been vaccinated to make a real difference will lockdowns / other measures be relaxed, you seem to imply that something more sinister might be going and then leave it up to those reading your comments to perhaps get more alarmed about it than necessary.
Coronavirus: Trudeau tells UN conference that pandemic provided "opportunity for a reset"
Justin is literally sitting there you telling you that there is more going on with the pandemic than just the virus. He's very open about it. It's not a "theory". I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
Ontario for example is now coming out of provincial lockdown since our case numbers have dropped a fair amount Why have the numbers dropped? Do you know? Is it because there is less cases? Or is it because they're doing far less testing now than they were?
I mean, they went from being backlogged with 90,000 unverified tests per day (that's 90,000 above their 70,000 capacity), to only testing at half the capacity possible.
Statistically speaking, if you're only a third as many people as previously, the number of cases will decrease by that same 1/3 margin.
Joel said :
My one issue I have right now is how badly Canada is doing with vaccine rollout. It's terrible. Yeah, it's pretty messed up that they're now going to delay the second dose of vaccines for 90 days, instead of the 21 days recommended by the manufacturers. The claim is that there currently isn't enough vaccines for everyone to get a second dose, so they want to get a first dose to as many people as possible, while at the same time, sending vaccines that Canadian taxpayers have paid for to other countries.
Joel said :
But that said, you make sweeping statements such as "vaccines aren't going to end lockdowns" and rather than think realistically which is, yeah, until mostly everyone (or enough people) have been vaccinated to make a real difference will lockdowns / other measures be relaxed, you seem to imply that something more sinister might be going and then leave it up to those reading your comments to perhaps get more alarmed about it than necessary.
Coronavirus: Trudeau tells UN conference that pandemic provided "opportunity for a reset"
https://youtu.be/n2fp0Jeyjvw
Justin is literally sitting there you telling you that there is more going on with the pandemic than just the virus. He's very open about it. It's not a "theory". I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 17:16:49
Dadizar
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I thought you lived in Alberta? When did I claim that? Why are you concerning yourself with my personal details? And why would you think that posting someone's personal details would be appropriate on the forums? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
I thought you lived in Alberta? When did I claim that? Why are you concerning yourself with my personal details? And why would you think that posting someone's personal details would be appropriate on the forums? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 17:18:31
Joel
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NexOrigin said :
Justin is literally sitting there you telling you that there is more going on with the pandemic than just the virus. He's very open about it. It's not a "theory". Ok, so in the context of fixing broken systems, climate change and so on (which is hardly groundbreaking, or a shock), it is an opportunity to address many issues people face. Why do you have to make it appear anymore sinister than that? To reference that in the context of lockdowns, as if lockdowns are part of this 'reset' and that we'll never be free again like pre-pandemic.
It's an opportunity to address many things normally easier to forget or brush under the carpet, when things are rolling in normal circumstances. Replacing capitalism with socialism is a sinister thing to do, especially under the guise of a pandemic.
At least you're at the point where you're accepting that there is something more going on with the pandemic than just the virus. Now you can stop implying that I'm promoting false conspiracy theories.
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
NexOrigin said :
Justin is literally sitting there you telling you that there is more going on with the pandemic than just the virus. He's very open about it. It's not a "theory". Ok, so in the context of fixing broken systems, climate change and so on (which is hardly groundbreaking, or a shock), it is an opportunity to address many issues people face. Why do you have to make it appear anymore sinister than that? To reference that in the context of lockdowns, as if lockdowns are part of this 'reset' and that we'll never be free again like pre-pandemic.
It's an opportunity to address many things normally easier to forget or brush under the carpet, when things are rolling in normal circumstances. Replacing capitalism with socialism is a sinister thing to do, especially under the guise of a pandemic.
At least you're at the point where you're accepting that there is something more going on with the pandemic than just the virus. Now you can stop implying that I'm promoting false conspiracy theories.
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 17:39:42
Joel
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I'm not about to enter a more direct political debate with you. All I've said is that there's no evidence to suggest there's anything more sinister going on (e.g, we're about to be caged for the rest of our lives). Can you show me where I claimed "we're about to be caged for the rest of our lives"?
Dude man, you're making stuff up, and implying that I said things that I didn't. Please don't start this again.
Joel said :
That being said, people have a right to express their views when they vote. Let's just leave it at that. Best joke of the year so far!
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
I'm not about to enter a more direct political debate with you. All I've said is that there's no evidence to suggest there's anything more sinister going on (e.g, we're about to be caged for the rest of our lives). Can you show me where I claimed "we're about to be caged for the rest of our lives"?
Dude man, you're making stuff up, and implying that I said things that I didn't. Please don't start this again.
Joel said :
That being said, people have a right to express their views when they vote. Let's just leave it at that. Best joke of the year so far!
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 17:56:31
Because I literally didn't say XYZ.
You're taking what I say, in your own words "without providing greater context" and then imply I've stated things that I haven't stated. When I call that out, you claim it must be my intent to say those things without specifically saying them.
If you don't know what my intent is, then just ask. Don't make up your own intentions that you think I have, and imply that must be my intention. If you don't know, or want further context, or would a like a citation, just ask. I've repeatedly stated to simply ask if you want to know.
Stop assuming things. Just ask.
What's that saying again? Don't assume, it makes an ASS of U and ME.
I have no problems further explaining things, or citing my sources, all you have to do is ask. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
You're taking what I say, in your own words "without providing greater context" and then imply I've stated things that I haven't stated. When I call that out, you claim it must be my intent to say those things without specifically saying them.
If you don't know what my intent is, then just ask. Don't make up your own intentions that you think I have, and imply that must be my intention. If you don't know, or want further context, or would a like a citation, just ask. I've repeatedly stated to simply ask if you want to know.
Stop assuming things. Just ask.
What's that saying again? Don't assume, it makes an ASS of U and ME.
I have no problems further explaining things, or citing my sources, all you have to do is ask. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
16-Feb-2021 18:20:19
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