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BreakingBad
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The anti corruption unit is not to be underestimated, its very different to professional standards who investigate complaints and misconduct not rising to the criminal level.

The anti corruption unit are relentless, they have more tools available to them, officers don't know who they are, or where they work from. And they're as a whole incredibly experienced at complex crime. No one hates corrupt cops more than good cops. (Line is duty is quite factually inaccurate, it made me cringe to what I imagine medical staff watching medical docs do)
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14-Mar-2021 21:55:52 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2021 21:56:40 by BreakingBad

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Lol.

I've found the work of those that work in the ARVs quite interesting. I think they are individually known as AFOs.

Had a look at some vids. There was a calm, level headed (or at least appeared to be) officer explaining how he became on AFO. It was very interesting. I believe that working towards this could lead to a life of really good discipline and sound health and rationality (as long as you don't end up abusing your power somewhere down the line lol),

What are your opinions on AFOs?

13-Apr-2021 18:20:52

BreakingBad
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Aeroxmaster said :
Lol.

I've found the work of those that work in the ARVs quite interesting. I think they are individually known as AFOs.

Had a look at some vids. There was a calm, level headed (or at least appeared to be) officer explaining how he became on AFO. It was very interesting. I believe that working towards this could lead to a life of really good discipline and sound health and rationality (as long as you don't end up abusing your power somewhere down the line lol),

What are your opinions on AFOs?

The issue, and I say issue lightly as it depends what you want to do and how active you need to be. You have to work hard in your first 2 years to apply and get in specialisms (ARVS), then you do an intense course. And suddenly, you're sat in a car, for 12 hours a day, doing not a lot, every day.

Skillfade is a thing, everything you used to deal with, the skills you learnt? Yeah you aren't using them. They're fantastic at what they do, and god help us if we need them. But I've met many who left that dept as they just get bored. It obviously differs person to person, but majority of people in that line of work like to be active and busy, and that dept is...luckily, not that busy.

There are many different AFO roles, many you won't know about but it's a fantastic field.

MOD plod (MOD police and CNC) are, as a majority just guards, but paid the same as PCs and carry firearms. some do some fantastic specialisms and have a great amount of fun and travel all over the world, but again few and far between.
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13-Apr-2021 22:49:42

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I see, interesting review of it.

So basically, you say they sit in their car on terrorism patrol all day, or wait in their car for another job.

I mean I guess it's good they don't need to be used often. And yes skill fade is an important thing to think about.

MoD police do not have jurisdiction in civilian areas as far as I'm aware. Only on MoD property, unless they are near the jurisdiction of a civilian policing area and need to sort something out urgently I think...

And yeah I heard you need at least 2 years experience as a Constable before even being able to get into an AFO role. Also need 2 years as a Constable if you want to become a Detective too I believe.

Wonder how much the AFO equipment an officer carries weighs and if it takes a bit of adjusting to haha

13-Apr-2021 23:06:58

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The kit weighs about twice as much as regular plods which weighs a good few kilos, so expect around 12-15kg

ARV aren't routinely deployed to ongoing jobs unless it requires them, due to a mix of public perception and needing them to be available for ongoing incidents where they're needed. I'm sure they manage to keep themselves occupied but it's a job you need to want to do.

MOD have powers everywhere, CNC only have powers within a certain area, usually 5miles of a nuclear facility or other designated area.

Detective is similar in the sense of you need to be out of your 2 year probationary, however a lot of forces (if not all) offer a fast-track scheme...where you do a mix of attachments during the first 2 years, take the NIE (national investigators exam) to qualify as a detective. It's a tedious, labour intensive process and you get a LOT of low level volume jobs, but that's how you get experience and progress. It's not a great way to progress doing track-track IMO.

I'd always recommend doing a good few years, 3-5+ before going specialist to learn the job, any department first. That being said if you're good enough, go for it :P Detective is too much sitting behind a desk, paperwork for my liking, I watch 24 hours in police custody and I'm like nice
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13-Apr-2021 23:20:07 - Last edited on 13-Apr-2021 23:21:19 by BreakingBad

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Aeroxmaster said :
I see.

But the Port Police only have jurisdiction on port grounds right?

Ports police, As in actual police who work in the marine section or those guys who drive 4x4 that say security?

Only Civil nuclear constabulary are restricted on their powers, every other force, MOD, BTP and home office are anywhere in England/Wales. CNC do operate marine section however not many of them, they're mainly MOD/home office forces.

tl;dr - they need to be acting as constables to carry firearms/PAVA, so if you see them, they have powers
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13-Apr-2021 23:46:38

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Actual Police in the port areas.

Had a look into it. Appears they are regulated by the DfT rather than the HO. They do not routinely have jurisdiction outside port areas, unless the Chief makes an application to the territorial police to have their force also operational in the territorial policing area.

Interesting. I've learned quite a bit today lol.

13-Apr-2021 23:54:37

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Aeroxmaster said :
Actual Police in the port areas.

Had a look into it. Appears they are regulated by the DfT rather than the HO. They do not routinely have jurisdiction outside port areas, unless the Chief makes an application to the territorial police to have their force also operational in the territorial policing area.

Interesting. I've learned quite a bit today lol.

Very much depends on who it is, home office forces have a predominant responsibility over their local ports, MOD guard some for various reasons and same with CNC.
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14-Apr-2021 00:02:06

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